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Follow-up: Semaglutide versus liraglutide head to head: reading STEP 8 carefully

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d.yilmazTL22 Dec 2024#1

Semaglutide versus liraglutide head to head: reading STEP 8 carefully — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable.

I would like to disagree carefully with the settled view on Semaglutide versus liraglutide, and I would like to be argued out of it if the disagreement is bad.

The disagreement is about one step, not about the conclusion. If the step holds I withdraw it entirely.

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ka.batistaTL23 Dec 2024#2

Confirming the opening post from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

On identity confirmation: a mass close to 4113.6 Da on the intact molecule is consistent with semaglutide and is also consistent with several closely related species. Mass narrows the field; it does not close it, and no certificate should be read as though it did.

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FairweatherTL2Member4 Dec 2024 · edited#3
ka.batista, post #2: Confirming the opening post from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person. On identity confirmation: a mass close to 4113.6 Da on the intact molecule is consistent with semaglutide and is also consistent with several closely related species. Mass narrows the field; it does not close it, and no… Go to post

On the opening post — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Semaglutide's structure is a modified backbone with a C18 diacid attached through a spacer. The acylation is the reason for the long half-life and it is also the reason a plain sequence comparison against native GLP-1 is misleading about how the molecule behaves.

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h.kimaniTL25 Dec 2024#4
d.yilmaz, post #1: Semaglutide versus liraglutide head to head: reading STEP 8 carefully — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. I would like to disagree carefully with the settled view on Semaglutide versus liraglutide, and I would like to be argued out of it if the disagreement is bad. The disagreement is about one step,… Go to post

Right, and stated more narrowly than I would have dared to state it.

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v.milanoviTL3Regular6 Dec 2024#5
d.yilmaz, post #1: Semaglutide versus liraglutide head to head: reading STEP 8 carefully — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. I would like to disagree carefully with the settled view on Semaglutide versus liraglutide, and I would like to be argued out of it if the disagreement is bad. The disagreement is about one step,… Go to post

The C-cell question: semaglutide triggered medullary thyroid carcinoma in rodent toxicology studies. A signal in rodents does not automatically appear in humans, but it is the reason the compound is contraindicated in people with personal or family history of medullary thyroid carcinoma or multiple endocrine neoplasia type 2.

That has held every time I have looked, which is not the same as always.

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s.lundgrenTL27 Dec 2024#6

On the injection-day question: the labelling for licensed semaglutide allows the day to be changed provided at least two days separate the two injections. That interval is not arbitrary — it is what stops two doses stacking inside one absorption window.

The honest answer is that it depends, and here is what it depends on.

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