Washout after stopping takes roughly the same four to five half-lives as reaching steady state. A month after the last dose is not the same as none.
Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise.
Washout after stopping takes roughly the same four to five half-lives as reaching steady state. A month after the last dose is not the same as none.
Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise.
Half-life determines how quickly concentration approaches steady state and does not determine what the steady-state concentration is. Dose and clearance determine that.
That is the shape of it. The detail is where I would expect to be corrected.
That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you.
Accumulation at steady state: with a week-long half-life, steady-state concentration is reached around 4 to 5 half-lives (about 4 to 5 weeks). Before that, concentration is rising with each dose. The clinical implication: escalating before 4 weeks means escalating before steady state.
I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge.
No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored.
Taking post #79 at face value and following it one step further.
The accumulation ratio for weekly dosing with a week-long half-life is around two, which is why the concentration after several doses is roughly double the concentration after the first.
Take it as a starting point and not as a specification.
A pharmacokinetic model fitted to trial data describes the population studied. Applying it to somebody outside the enrolled range is an extrapolation, and the model will not tell you it is.
I checked the source rather than the summary, and they differ.
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