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Half-life, steady state, and accumulation worked through

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VPoulsenTL3Regular24 May 2025#17
SHermansen, post #5: Where I part company with the opening post, and it is a narrow parting. The version of half-life that circulates here is a simplification of a simplification. It is not wrong, but it has lost the conditions under which it holds, and those conditions are where the interesting cases live. Go to post

Washout after stopping takes roughly the same four to five half-lives as reaching steady state. A month after the last dose is not the same as none.

Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise.

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maintenance_modeTL3Regular25 May 2025#22

Half-life determines how quickly concentration approaches steady state and does not determine what the steady-state concentration is. Dose and clearance determine that.

That is the shape of it. The detail is where I would expect to be corrected.

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b.oseiTL228 May 2025#34

Half-life: semaglutide ≈ 165–184 hours (about a week). Tirzepatide ≈ 5 days. Liraglutide ≈ 13 hours. The half-life determines how much accumulation happens at steady state and how long it takes to clear after stopping.

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priorauth_notesTL2Regular1 Jun 2025#50

That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you.

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k.agyemanTL21 Jun 2025#52
s.bruun, post #33: Where the half-life discussion usually stalls is that nobody wants to say "I do not know" and everyone is willing to say "it varies". Those are the same sentence with different clothes on. Go to post

Accumulation at steady state: with a week-long half-life, steady-state concentration is reached around 4 to 5 half-lives (about 4 to 5 weeks). Before that, concentration is rising with each dose. The clinical implication: escalating before 4 weeks means escalating before steady state.

I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge.

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crossover_reviewTL3Regular6 Jun 2025#74

No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored.

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r.chukwuTL28 Jun 2025#82

Taking post #79 at face value and following it one step further.

The accumulation ratio for weekly dosing with a week-long half-life is around two, which is why the concentration after several doses is roughly double the concentration after the first.

Take it as a starting point and not as a specification.

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a.westergaardTL3Regular14 Jun 2025#115
priorauth_notes, post #50: That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you. Go to post

A pharmacokinetic model fitted to trial data describes the population studied. Applying it to somebody outside the enrolled range is an extrapolation, and the model will not tell you it is.

I checked the source rather than the summary, and they differ.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin16 Jun 2025 · edited#126

This settles it for me, at least until somebody posts a reason it should not.

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