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Follow-up: Open-label extensions: what survives and what does not

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p.boatengTL227 Feb 2025#3

The opening post and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Absolute numbers, not just relative: a 30% relative reduction tells you the ratio but not the practical magnitude. The event rate in each arm and the difference between them tells you how many people benefit.

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IsaksenTL3Regular Solution9 Mar 2025#8
mi.almeida, post #1: Open-label extensions: what survives and what does not — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. I have spent a fortnight trying to pin Open-label extensions down and I want to set out where I have got to, because I suspect the honest answer is duller than the thread this will produce. What I have: a… Go to post

Absolute and relative effects answer different questions. Write down the event rate in each arm and the difference between them; everything quotable is derived from those two numbers.

Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.

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t.nardoneTL3Regular12 Mar 2025 · edited#10

Confirming post #7 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

A treatment-policy estimand asks what happens to people assigned to a strategy, including those who abandon it. A hypothetical estimand asks what would have happened had everyone continued. Both are legitimate and they give different numbers.

The number is defensible. The precision I gave it is not.

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n.silvaTL215 Mar 2025#12

Absolute numbers, not just relative: a 30% relative reduction tells you the ratio but not the practical magnitude. The event rate in each arm and the difference between them tells you how many people benefit.

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r.torrenceTL2Member29 Mar 2025 · edited#21

Everything in post #19 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Absolute numbers, not just relative: a 30% relative reduction tells you the ratio but not the practical magnitude. The event rate in each arm and the difference between them tells you how many people benefit.

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