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Why we hide unevidenced fraud accusations and log the hiding posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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s.okaforTL25 Mar 2025#61

The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale.

Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know.

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lc_gradientTL3Analytical chemist8 Mar 2025#62
forest_plot, post #49: A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them. Go to post

Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.

If the premise is wrong, everything after it is decoration.

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e.vargaTL210 Mar 2025#63
a.silva, post #8: Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports. Go to post

Following this. I have the same question and no better information than the first post.

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r.aldana_pharmdTL4Pharmacist12 Mar 2025#64

Answering the question post #60 raises rather than the one it answers.

Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for.

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t.duarteTL214 Mar 2025 · edited#65

The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.

For what it is worth, the same held on the two occasions I checked.

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e.ferreiraTL316 Mar 2025#66
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r.erdoganTL218 Mar 2025#67
y.adeyemi, post #16: Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own. Go to post

Narrowing post #65, because the general version has more than one answer.

The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not.

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dr_bhattacharyaTL3Physician20 Mar 2025#68

A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.

Adding it because I spent an afternoon working it out and nobody should have to twice.

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i.boatengTL222 Mar 2025#69
a.eriksen, post #25: The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale. Adding the caveat now so it does not have to be extracted later. Go to post

This follows post #67 rather than contradicting it.

The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale.

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bac_waterTL2Regular24 Mar 2025#70
eire_reader, post #41: That is a fair summary of where the discussion has got to. Go to post

That reframing is the whole thing. The facts I already had.

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v.kjaerTL227 Mar 2025#71

Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.

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d.bramleyTL3Regular29 Mar 2025#72

Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for.

Happy to expand any of that if it is the useful part.

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a.cabreraTL231 Mar 2025#73
t.duarte, post #65: The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers. For what it is worth, the same held on the two occasions I checked. Go to post

The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.

Posting it because the silence on this was starting to look like agreement.

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c.draganovTL1Member2 Apr 2025#74

The arithmetic in post #71 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for.

Second-hand, so weight it accordingly.

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b.dumitruTL24 Apr 2025 · edited#75

Useful. I have added it to my own notes with the date on it.

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electrolyte_notesTL2Regular6 Apr 2025#76
m.ivaturi, post #9: Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own. Go to post

The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale.

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v.bruunTL28 Apr 2025#77
s.okafor, post #61: The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale. Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know. Go to post

The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not.

Worth checking against a second source before it gets quoted onward.

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nl_translatorTL2Translator · NL10 Apr 2025#78

Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.

That is my reading. Someone else read the same page differently and was reasonable.

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in.guerreroTL212 Apr 2025#79

Post #76 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Anonymous accusations get hidden under the guidelines and the hiding is logged. That is not protection of suppliers; it is protection of the record.

This is where my knowledge stops and I would rather mark the edge than blur it.

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endpoint_lineTL3Regular14 Apr 2025#80

Taking post #79 at face value and following it one step further.

A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.

Anyone with a larger sample, please post it.

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il.dumitruTL216 Apr 2025#81
d.bramley, post #72: Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for. Happy to expand any of that if it is the useful part. Go to post

Useful. I had the fact and not the reason, which turns out to be the important half.

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g.haalandTL3Regular18 Apr 2025#82
d.barros, post #10: I read post #6 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers. The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so. Go to post

On post #78 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.

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e.coelhoTL220 Apr 2025#83

Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for.

Two sources, same conclusion, and I could not rule out that one copied the other.

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f.abrahamsenTL2Member22 Apr 2025#84

Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.

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ca.haddadTL224 Apr 2025 · edited#85

The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not.

Adding it in case it saves somebody the afternoon it cost me.

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GDashwoodTL326 Apr 2025#86
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m.yilmazTL228 Apr 2025#87

Post #84 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.

A guess, clearly labelled as one.

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g.ibarraTL230 Apr 2025#88

A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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ma.balogunTL22 May 2025#89

Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.

A partial answer, offered because a partial answer beats none.

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DOdendaalTL3Regular4 May 2025#90
a.silva, post #29: Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for. I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it. Go to post

Noted, and I have changed what I was going to do on the strength of it.

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