I read post #27 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.
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Why we hide unevidenced fraud accusations and log the hiding posts 31–60
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.
Post #31 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.
The mechanism is plausible, which is not the same as established.
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Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.
Worth reading the earlier posts in this thread before acting on mine.
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k.radich, post #1: Why we hide unevidenced fraud accusations and log the hiding — that is the question, and I have not found it answered plainly anywhere I have looked. Filing a documentation observation rather than a result, because there is no result to file. The certificate arrived with the consignment. It carries a purity figure and a method name and… Go to post
The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.
That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it.
mira.patel, post #31: I read post #27 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own. Go to post
Everything in post #31 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.
The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale.
I would be glad to be shown a cleaner way of putting this.
Narrowing post #35, because the general version has more than one answer.
Anonymous accusations get hidden under the guidelines and the hiding is logged. That is not protection of suppliers; it is protection of the record.
The confident version of this sentence would be wrong, so here is the hedged one.
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The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.
I would put the burden of proof on the interesting explanation, not the dull one.
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Answering the question post #35 raises rather than the one it answers.
Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.
The honest answer is that it depends, and here is what it depends on.
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Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.
Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise.
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That is a fair summary of where the discussion has got to.
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e.mensa, post #23: Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports. A weak preference rather than a position. Go to post
A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.
Anyone who has looked at this more carefully, please correct the record.
The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale.
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The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not.
That is the version I use. It may not be the version that is correct.
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v.krastev, post #30: Second this, and I would have said it less carefully. Go to post
The strongest single signal available cheaply is what happens when you ask a technical question. A quantitative answer inside a working day is difficult to fake at scale.
I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this.
Adding the measurement that post #44 says would settle it.
Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.
One more caveat and then I will stop qualifying: the sample selected itself.
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Post #46 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.
The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.
The answer changed when I changed how I was measuring, which was informative.
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vial_desk, post #26: Everything in post #24 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have. Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own. Go to post
A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.
dr_bhattacharya, post #37: The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers. I would put the burden of proof on the interesting explanation, not the dull one. Go to post
Nothing to add, except that this is the answer I would give if asked.
Post #49 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.
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t.verhoeven, post #21: Adding a data point of agreement rather than a data point. Go to post
Where somebody posts a concern, ask what would resolve it before arguing about it. Half of these threads end with a document nobody had asked for.
If that is already documented somewhere, ignore me and link it.
I had written a reply contradicting post #53 and deleted it. Here is what survived.
Nothing here should be read as an accusation against a named company, and the guidelines exist so that reports remain reports.
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m.stephanopoulos, post #40: Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own. Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise. Go to post
Confirming post #53 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.
The most useful contribution to this subcategory is a resolved case written up with the resolution, because the unresolved ones are all anyone remembers.
Prices well below the rest of the market are a fact rather than a finding. They are worth noting and they do not establish anything on their own.
Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.
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A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.
Flagging that the sources on this are thinner than the confidence in the thread suggests.
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The guidelines draw that line for a practical reason as much as a fair one: reports accumulate into something useful and allegations do not.
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forest_plot, post #49: A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them. Go to post
A stock listing that never changes and a lead time that never varies are both worth noticing. Real operations have variation in them.
Small point, but it is the one that usually catches people.