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A request that was declined, and the reasoning — a second dataset posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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s.okonkwoTL28 Aug 2025#31
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cohort_driftTL3Regular8 Aug 2025#32

A request that says what the page should not cover is unusually helpful, because scope creep is what kills these.

I have kept the units in throughout, for the obvious reason.

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m.ndiayeTL29 Aug 2025#33

Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added.

That is a description of practice, not a recommendation of it.

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h.kjeldsenTL1Member9 Aug 2025#34
v.kjaer, post #25: The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important. Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise. Go to post

Answering the question post #30 raises rather than the one it answers.

Accessibility feedback: if you have trouble accessing or reading a maintained page (screen reader issues, contrast problems, small text) report it. Accessibility matters.

Adding this to the thread rather than to the wiki, because I am not confident enough for the wiki.

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r.coelhoTL29 Aug 2025#35

The commonest reason a good request stalls is that nobody converted it into a draft. A rough draft attracts editors; a request does not.

Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it.

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bench_peakTL3Regular9 Aug 2025#36

Useful. I have added it to my own notes with the date on it.

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s.vogelTL29 Aug 2025#37
a.nascimento, post #23: Post #21 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one. A calculator request and a document request are different things, and a calculator without a document explaining it is worse than neither. Go to post

Narrowing post #35, because the general version has more than one answer.

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

Not disagreeing with anyone above, just adding the bit I keep having to look up.

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IsaksenTL3Regular9 Aug 2025 · edited#38
cohort_drift, post #32: A request that says what the page should not cover is unusually helpful, because scope creep is what kills these. I have kept the units in throughout, for the obvious reason. Go to post

Everything in post #34 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

If a request is declined, the reasoning is written down, and it is worth reading because it usually describes a better version of the same idea.

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h.castellanosTL29 Aug 2025#39
n.ramos, post #7: On post #5 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Say what would make the page wrong. A page whose failure conditions are stated is much easier to review honestly. I would hold that lightly until someone with a larger sample weighs in. Go to post

Confirming post #37 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

Reading it again, the caveat matters more than the finding.

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KStephanopoulosTL3Regular9 Aug 2025#40

I had written a reply contradicting post #38 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change.

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o.vukovicTL210 Aug 2025#41
isotonic_sheet, post #4: Objections to a request belong in the open, and a request that survives an objection is a stronger page for it. This is the sort of thing that ought to be settled and apparently is not. Go to post

Coming back to post #39, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Say what would make the page wrong. A page whose failure conditions are stated is much easier to review honestly.

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s.karlsen_rphTL3Pharmacist10 Aug 2025#42
bench_peak, post #36: Useful. I have added it to my own notes with the date on it. Go to post

Post #39 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change.

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m.perrinTL210 Aug 2025#43

Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added.

Marking that as an opinion rather than a finding.

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dr_okonkwoTL4 Moderator10 Aug 2025#44

Adding thanks rather than a view. I do not have a view worth the space.

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f.sjobergTL210 Aug 2025#45

Accessibility feedback: if you have trouble accessing or reading a maintained page (screen reader issues, contrast problems, small text) report it. Accessibility matters.

That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it.

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d.fontaineTL210 Aug 2025#46
r.coelho, post #35: The commonest reason a good request stalls is that nobody converted it into a draft. A rough draft attracts editors; a request does not. Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it. Go to post

Post #43 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Requests for a page summarising a supplier are declined, because that is what the vendor documentation set is for and it has its own standards.

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k.salinasTL210 Aug 2025#47

A request is more likely to succeed with a proposed outline attached. "Somebody should write about X" rarely moves; a structure and two sections does.

The confident version of this sentence would be wrong, so here is the hedged one.

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me.eriksenTL210 Aug 2025#48

Requests for a document covering something the evidence does not support get declined, and the decline usually points at what could be written instead.

Worth reading the earlier posts in this thread before acting on mine.

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n.kravchenkoTL210 Aug 2025#49

Where a request is for a translation or a regional version, the maintenance burden doubles and the proposal should say who carries it.

That is the version I use. It may not be the version that is correct.

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w.novakTL3Regular11 Aug 2025#50
isotonic_sheet, post #4: Objections to a request belong in the open, and a request that survives an objection is a stronger page for it. This is the sort of thing that ought to be settled and apparently is not. Go to post

Scope the request narrowly. A page about one thing gets written and stays current; a page about a field does not.

That holds for the case as described. Change the assumptions and it may not.

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integrator_draftTL3Regular11 Aug 2025#51

Building on post #50 rather than restating it.

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

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y.ramosTL211 Aug 2025#52

Post #48 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

The commonest reason a good request stalls is that nobody converted it into a draft. A rough draft attracts editors; a request does not.

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v.klausenTL3Regular11 Aug 2025#53

Where a request is for a translation or a regional version, the maintenance burden doubles and the proposal should say who carries it.

Written in the hope of being told what I have missed.

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s.solbergTL211 Aug 2025#54
electrolyte_notes, post #13: Post #10 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change. Written from notes rather than memory, which is why the numbers are specific. Go to post

A calculator request and a document request are different things, and a calculator without a document explaining it is worse than neither.

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nl_translatorTL2Translator · NL11 Aug 2025#55

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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z.szaboTL211 Aug 2025#56

Post #52 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added.

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k.redgraveTL2Member11 Aug 2025#57
y.ramos, post #52: Post #48 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it. The commonest reason a good request stalls is that nobody converted it into a draft. A rough draft attracts editors; a request does not. Go to post

Bookmarking this. I will come back when I have something worth adding.

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n.szaboTL211 Aug 2025#58
SHermansen, post #8: Picking up post #5: that is the part I would want checked first. The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important. That is the practical version. The rigorous version is longer and says the same thing. Go to post

If a request is declined, the reasoning is written down, and it is worth reading because it usually describes a better version of the same idea.

I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it.

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v.salgadoTL212 Aug 2025#59

A request is more likely to succeed with a proposed outline attached. "Somebody should write about X" rarely moves; a structure and two sections does.

Noting that I have skin in this question and have tried to discount for it.

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lu.cabreraTL212 Aug 2025#60

Say what would make the page wrong. A page whose failure conditions are stated is much easier to review honestly.

A weak preference rather than a position.

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