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Asking about a compound your prescriber has not heard of — one year on

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Post #2 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. Understanding stopping rules: what would prompt stopping the compound? Adverse effect, lack of benefit after a defined time, or other reasons? Knowing in advance is better than surprise discontinuation. The number is defensible. The…

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e.silvaTL23 Nov 2024#1

On the subject in the title: Asking about a compound your prescriber has not heard of — one year on Working notes rather than a conclusion.

A question about how to describe something to a clinician rather than about the thing itself.

I have a set of observations, dated, with what I was doing at the time. What I do not have is a sense of which parts are worth an appointment's limited minutes.

How would you prioritise this if it were yours to present?

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ms_hollowayTL4Mass spectrometrist8 Nov 2024#2

A pharmacist can answer a great many of the questions people save for a prescriber, faster and often better, particularly about interactions and formulations.

The strength of my opinion here exceeds the strength of my evidence.

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k.dahlbergTL2 Solution12 Nov 2024#3

Post #2 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Understanding stopping rules: what would prompt stopping the compound? Adverse effect, lack of benefit after a defined time, or other reasons? Knowing in advance is better than surprise discontinuation.

The number is defensible. The precision I gave it is not.

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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator15 Nov 2024#4

The most useful question anyone here has reported asking: what would make you change your mind about this?

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s.grimaldiTL218 Nov 2024#5

Where a decision rests on a guideline, asking which guideline is entirely reasonable and usually answered directly.

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sourced_claimsTL3Regular20 Nov 2024 · edited#6

Quietly grateful for the plain phrasing. Not every thread gets that.

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e.iyerTL223 Nov 2024#7

Post #5 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Clarifying indication: if a compound is approved for diabetes but you have obesity without diabetes, clarify whether your clinician considers this off-label use and what the evidence basis is.

Caveat: everything above assumes the paperwork is what it says it is.

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dr.villanuevaTL3Physician25 Nov 2024#8
owen.brady, post #4: The most useful question anyone here has reported asking: what would make you change your mind about this? Go to post

Coming back to post #4, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Where you disagree, saying so plainly and asking for the reasoning is better than agreeing and not following the plan.

I am confident about the direction and much less about the magnitude.

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m.radichTL228 Nov 2024#9
ms_holloway, post #2: A pharmacist can answer a great many of the questions people save for a prescriber, faster and often better, particularly about interactions and formulations. The strength of my opinion here exceeds the strength of my evidence. Go to post

Building on post #7 rather than restating it.

Asking what monitoring is planned and why makes the monitoring make sense, and makes it likelier to happen.

I would rather be precise about what I do not know than vague about what I do.

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s.chowdhuryTL3Regular30 Nov 2024#10
owen.brady, post #4: The most useful question anyone here has reported asking: what would make you change your mind about this? Go to post

Post #8 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

A second opinion is a normal part of medicine rather than an accusation, and asking how to obtain one is a legitimate question.

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s.vukovicTL23 Dec 2024#11

Worth separating two things that post #7 runs together.

Questions about dose: asking "how will we determine whether this dose is working for me" gets at the monitoring plan. Asking "can we start lower" or "can we escalate slower" opens that conversation.

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steady_stateTL3Regular5 Dec 2024#12

Fine by me. I had wanted a stronger conclusion and there is not one available.

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c.castellanosTL27 Dec 2024#13
s.grimaldi, post #5: Where a decision rests on a guideline, asking which guideline is entirely reasonable and usually answered directly. Go to post

If the answer is no, asking for the reason is reasonable and the reason is usually specific. It is also what makes an appeal possible where one exists.

The confident version of this sentence would be wrong, so here is the hedged one.

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n.ekstromTL2Regular9 Dec 2024#14

Written summaries after an appointment are available in many systems and are worth asking for, because recollection of a consultation is unreliable.

Worth reading the earlier posts in this thread before acting on mine.

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r.mensahTL211 Dec 2024#15

On post #11 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Asking about monitoring: understand what lab work will be done, how often, and what you will be monitored for. A plan is better than ad-hoc monitoring.

A single observation, in a thread that deserves better than single observations.

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y.mensahTL3Wiki editor13 Dec 2024 · edited#16

Write the questions down in advance and put the most important one first. Appointments end and the order is what decides which questions get answered.

I would be glad to be shown a cleaner way of putting this.

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