The Peptide CommonsEst. May 2024
Independent. We sell nothing and are affiliated with no manufacturer or pharmacy. Every moderation action is logged in public
Evidence · Trials

Comparators chosen for regulatory reasons rather than clinical ones

Pinned Closed
PE
ppm_errorTL3Analytical chemist9 May 2025#1

On the subject in the title: Comparators chosen for regulatory reasons rather than clinical ones Working notes rather than a conclusion.

An honest uncertainty about comparators chosen for regulatory reasons rather than a disguised assertion.

I do not know the answer and I have not been able to find one. What I have is the shape of the question, which may be worth more than my guess at the answer.

29 likes 15mo
SZ
s.zamoraTL214 May 2025#2

Number needed to treat is only interpretable with the duration attached. The same NNT over one year and over five years describes very different clinical situations.

It is one reading of the data and not the only reasonable one.

30 likes 14mo
TD
titration_diaryTL3Regular17 May 2025#3

Adding the measurement that post #2 says would settle it.

Pre-specification is the property that makes a primary endpoint trustworthy. An endpoint chosen after seeing the data can be the best endpoint in the world and it no longer carries the same guarantee.

Small point, but it is the one that usually catches people.

0 likes 14mo
This topic was closed 120 days after the last reply. Closing is automatic for quiet topics so that a settled answer does not collect new questions underneath it. If you have a follow-up, open a new topic and link back to this one — that keeps both readable and gives your question its own title.

Suggested topics

TopicParticipantsRepliesViewsActivity
[2026 update] How to read a forest plot, properly, from scratch
How to read a forest plot, properly, from scratch — that is the question, and I have not found it answered plainly anywhere I have looked. Reading SURMOUNT-4 ( JAMA , 2024) for the population rather than the…
AZVNLWFKK+49 53 643 19mo
Primary endpoint hierarchies and why order matters — one year on
On the subject in the title: Primary endpoint hierarchies and why order matters — one year on Working notes rather than a conclusion. A follow-up question about Primary endpoint hierarchies that I did not…
SCAJNGRMGT+56 61 37k 11h
Interim analyses and stopping rules
Interim analyses and stopping rules Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. Asking about interim analyses and stopping rules on behalf of the question I keep seeing…
TKHJRIGEL+25 29 35k 16d
Subgroup analyses: pre-specified versus discovered
Subgroup analyses: pre-specified versus discovered — setting out what I have, and where I think it stops being reliable. I would like to disagree carefully with the settled view on subgroup analyses, and I…
JHAEI 2 27k 1d
Coming back to: Sample size calculations, read backwards from the published number
On the subject in the title: Sample size calculations, read backwards from the published number Working notes rather than a conclusion. Sample size calculations — I have the observation and I do not trust my…
PRIEBMMTV+82 88 1.8k 11mo

Related topics — sharing the tags surrogate endpoints, open label, estimand

TopicParticipantsRepliesViewsActivity
Revisiting: Semaglutide formulation: what is in the licensed product besides the peptide
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Revisiting: Semaglutide formulation: what is in the licensed product besides the peptide Everything below is what sits behind that. I have spent a fortnight trying…
UCZACNSKGF+72 77 7.2k 19mo
Journal club: STEP 1 and the treatment-policy estimand
Journal club: STEP 1 and the treatment-policy estimand Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. Session topic: STEP 1 ( N Engl J Med , 2021). Please read it before…
ZNBSRTW 3 11k 9h
Journal club: the CagriSema phase 2 combination paper
On the subject in the title: Journal club: the CagriSema phase 2 combination paper Working notes rather than a conclusion. CagriSema phase 2 combination paper — I have the observation and I do not trust my…
PFKMM 2 329 21h
Revisiting: Primary endpoint hierarchies and why order matters
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Revisiting: Primary endpoint hierarchies and why order matters Everything below is what sits behind that. I was wrong about Primary endpoint hierarchies in a thread…
AHGJTCVMS+21 25 46k 3mo
Oral versus injectable exposure: comparing apples to a different fruit — a second dataset
Posting this under the heading it deserves: Oral versus injectable exposure: comparing apples to a different fruit — a second dataset Everything below is what sits behind that. Something about Oral versus…
BFAFMNCLAI+27 31 17k 25d