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Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully

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Post #2 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it. A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.

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PSkarbekTL3Regular23 Apr 2025#1

Posting this under the heading it deserves: Comparing my trajectory with the trial curves, carefully Everything below is what sits behind that.

Maintenance rather than loss, which is the part of this that almost nobody writes about.

I have been at roughly the same weight for 11 months. The interesting questions are all different from the ones I had at the start, and the documentation here is much thinner on this phase.

I would like to compare notes with people who are further along, and I would like to know what the published evidence says about this phase specifically rather than by extrapolation.

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gradient_fileTL2Member30 Apr 2025#2

Rate of change matters more than the absolute number for most of the questions people ask about their own series.

I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge.

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ca.vermeulenTL26 May 2025#3
gradient_file, post #2: Rate of change matters more than the absolute number for most of the questions people ask about their own series. I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge. Go to post

Building on the opening post rather than restating it.

Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops.

Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in.

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WoodhouseTL2Member Solution10 May 2025#4
ca.vermeulen, post #3: Building on the opening post rather than restating it. Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops. Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in. Go to post

Post #2 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.

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z.vogelTL214 May 2025 · edited#5

Seconded. It reads as careful rather than confident, which is the right register.

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diluent_watchTL2Member18 May 2025#6

Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.

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o.nybergTL222 May 2025#7
ca.vermeulen, post #3: Building on the opening post rather than restating it. Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops. Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in. Go to post

If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding.

I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it.

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ZieglerTL3Regular26 May 2025#8
z.vogel, post #5: Seconded. It reads as careful rather than confident, which is the right register. Go to post

Where I part company with post #6, and it is a narrow parting.

Self-reported intake is optimistic in a consistent direction, and saying so in your own report is more credible than not.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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g.verhoevenTL229 May 2025#9

Picking up post #8: that is the part I would want checked first.

The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.

Take it as a starting point and not as a specification.

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r.scholtenTL2Member2 Jun 2025#10

On post #6 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.

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n.ramosTL25 Jun 2025#11
diluent_watch, post #6: Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise. Go to post

Post #9 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context.

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e.almeidaTL2Member8 Jun 2025#12

Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops.

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r.sobczakTL212 Jun 2025#13

Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.

This is where my knowledge stops and I would rather mark the edge than blur it.

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RodriguesTL3Regular15 Jun 2025#14
e.almeida, post #12: Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops. Go to post

Confirming post #13 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.

Anyone with a larger sample, please post it.

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c.nybergTL218 Jun 2025#15
o.nyberg, post #7: If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding. I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it. Go to post

I had read the opposite somewhere and cannot now find where, which tells me something.

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l.sarkissianTL2Member21 Jun 2025#16

Picking up post #13: that is the part I would want checked first.

Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.

If anyone can point at the primary source I would be grateful.

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t.marchettiTL224 Jun 2025#17

Self-reported intake is optimistic in a consistent direction, and saying so in your own report is more credible than not.

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ak.kravchenkoTL230 Jun 2025#19
o.nyberg, post #7: If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding. I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it. Go to post

Rate of change matters more than the absolute number for most of the questions people ask about their own series.

One case, stated as one case.

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t.steenkampTL2Member3 Jul 2025#20
ca.vermeulen, post #3: Building on the opening post rather than restating it. Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops. Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in. Go to post

Narrowing post #17, because the general version has more than one answer.

Nothing here is medical advice and a progress report is a description of what happened to one person under uncontrolled conditions.

I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it.

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s.achebeTL26 Jul 2025#21
g.verhoeven, post #9: Picking up post #8: that is the part I would want checked first. The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence. Take it as a starting point and not as a specification. Go to post

A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.

Adding it because I spent an afternoon working it out and nobody should have to twice.

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KnowltonTL3Regular9 Jul 2025#22

Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.

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k.agyemanTL211 Jul 2025#23

Progress reports that describe an ordinary trajectory are more useful than remarkable ones and are far rarer, because only the remarkable ones feel worth posting.

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VThorvaldsenTL3Regular14 Jul 2025#24

Coming back to post #20, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.

The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.

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mi.almeidaTL217 Jul 2025#25
g.verhoeven, post #9: Picking up post #8: that is the part I would want checked first. The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence. Take it as a starting point and not as a specification. Go to post

This follows post #22 rather than contradicting it.

Nothing here is medical advice and a progress report is a description of what happened to one person under uncontrolled conditions.

I would call that likely rather than established.

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n.torrenceTL3Regular20 Jul 2025#26

Rate of change matters more than the absolute number for most of the questions people ask about their own series.

Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know.

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a.petrovTL222 Jul 2025#27

Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops.

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s.poulsenTL3Regular25 Jul 2025#28

The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.

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l.wikstromTL228 Jul 2025#29

Taking post #26 at face value and following it one step further.

Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context.

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f.kimaniTL230 Jul 2025#30
n.torrence, post #26: Rate of change matters more than the absolute number for most of the questions people ask about their own series. Correct me on the arithmetic if it is wrong; I would rather know. Go to post

Post #28 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Comparing your trajectory to a trial mean is comparing an individual to an average of a selected population, and the spread around that mean is wide.

It cost nothing to check and would have cost something not to.

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