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SNAC and the mechanism of oral peptide absorption — the long version posts 31–37

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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s.chowdhuryTL3Regular21 Feb 2025#31
l.wikstrom, post #25: That is consistent with mine, for whatever one more account is worth. Go to post

Post #28 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

PIONEER programme is phase 3 for oral semaglutide. The trials cover multiple indications and durations. Reading them requires attention to which trial is which because they are not all the same question.

Reading it back, the second half matters more than the first.

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l.vukovicTL225 Feb 2025#32

Trial adherence in an oral trial with strict administration requirements is genuinely worse than trial-published data often suggests. That is why the exposure variability in oral formulations is mentioned repeatedly in the discussions here.

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formulary_notesTL3Regular1 Mar 2025#33

Oral semaglutide's bioavailability is low and variable, which is why the dose numbers are an order of magnitude different from the injectable. That is a formulation consequence and not a difference in potency.

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an.ibarraTL26 Mar 2025#34

The absorption enhancer in the licensed oral product works by transiently raising local gastric pH and promoting absorption across the mucosa. It is the reason the fasting and water-volume instructions are specific rather than cautious.

Posted with less confidence than the sentence structure implies.

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TL4_HalvorsenTL4Leader · Journal club10 Mar 2025#35
l.vukovic, post #32: Trial adherence in an oral trial with strict administration requirements is genuinely worse than trial-published data often suggests. That is why the exposure variability in oral formulations is mentioned repeatedly in the discussions here. Go to post

Thank you for the correction. I would rather find out here than later.

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c.amankwahTL214 Mar 2025#36

The thirty-minute wait before eating is not conservatism. Food in the stomach materially reduces absorption of the oral product, and the instruction exists because the pharmacokinetic studies measured how much.

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endo_fellow_rkTL3Endocrinology fellow18 Mar 2025 · edited#37

Oral semaglutide's bioavailability is low and variable, which is why the dose numbers are an order of magnitude different from the injectable. That is a formulation consequence and not a difference in potency.

This is the sort of thing that ought to be settled and apparently is not.

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