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Two sessions a week versus four: what the evidence supports

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BDraganovTL2Member8 Nov 2024#1

On the subject in the title: Two sessions a week versus four: what the evidence supports Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Reporting rather than asking, and the method is stated so the numbers mean something.

Same sessions logged the same way for 11 weeks, with load and reps recorded each time and intake tracked for one week in four rather than continuously.

What I want to know is whether the pattern in the middle is what everybody sees and nobody writes down.

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k.chukwuTL210 Nov 2024 · edited#2

Nothing here is medical advice and anybody with a relevant condition should have a programme reviewed by somebody qualified rather than assembled from a forum.

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KForsbergTL2Member12 Nov 2024#3
Community wiki post. Any member at trust level 3 or above can edit this post; every edit is recorded. Last edited by r.aldana_pharmd on 6 Jul 2025.
  • 7 Feb 2025 — e.dalgleish: Corrected an arithmetic slip in the second example.
  • 22 Dec 2024 — DSakamoto: Plain-language pass on the opening paragraph.
  • 9 Mar 2025 — bench_notes: Restructured into sections so the outline is navigable.
  • 6 Jul 2025 — r.aldana_pharmd: Added the limitations paragraph that review asked for.
Editors: e.dalgleish, DSakamoto, bench_notes, r.aldana_pharmd

Reduced appetite makes fuelling a session harder, and that is a practical problem with practical solutions rather than a reason to stop.

The disagreement above is smaller than it looks once the terms are fixed.

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k.kimaniTL214 Nov 2024#4

The opening post put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not.

That distinction has done more work for me than anything else in this category.

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e.lehtinenTL215 Nov 2024#5
BDraganov, post #1: On the subject in the title: Two sessions a week versus four: what the evidence supports Working notes rather than a conclusion. Reporting rather than asking, and the method is stated so the numbers mean something. Same sessions logged the same way for 11 weeks, with load and reps recorded each time and intake tracked for one week in… Go to post

Post #2 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Cardiovascular work has its own benefits and is not a substitute for a resistance stimulus for this particular purpose.

That much is documented. The rest is how I have interpreted it.

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b.aaltoTL216 Nov 2024#6

I read post #4 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Anybody returning after a break should expect to start lower than they left, and expecting otherwise is where injuries come from.

The step people skip is the one I have spelled out.

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r.friskTL218 Nov 2024#7

Thank you for taking the time. That was more work than a reply usually is.

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h.ferrariTL219 Nov 2024#8

A resistance stimulus during a deficit is the other half of the lean-tissue argument, and the evidence for it is reasonably strong.

I would rather say I do not know than round it up to an answer.

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v.baptistaTL220 Nov 2024#9

Reduced appetite makes fuelling a session harder, and that is a practical problem with practical solutions rather than a reason to stop.

I have no interest in any supplier named above.

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bench_notesTL4 Moderator21 Nov 2024#10

Frequency matters less than consistency and progression. Two sessions a week done every week beats four sessions done occasionally.

I have deliberately not rounded that, because the rounding is where the argument starts.

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n.vogelTL222 Nov 2024#11
k.chukwu, post #2: Nothing here is medical advice and anybody with a relevant condition should have a programme reviewed by somebody qualified rather than assembled from a forum. Go to post

Everything in post #8 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not.

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o.cousineauTL3Regular23 Nov 2024#12

Nothing here is medical advice and anybody with a relevant condition should have a programme reviewed by somebody qualified rather than assembled from a forum.

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d.barrosTL224 Nov 2024#13

Cardiovascular work has its own benefits and is not a substitute for a resistance stimulus for this particular purpose.

Anyone with a larger sample, please post it.

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m.ivaturiTL225 Nov 2024#14

Reduced appetite makes fuelling a session harder, and that is a practical problem with practical solutions rather than a reason to stop.

I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge.

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c.adebayoTL226 Nov 2024#15
k.kimani, post #4: The opening post put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it. The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not. That distinction has done more work for me than anything else in this category. Go to post

The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not.

I am describing what is, rather than arguing for what should be.

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h.karlsenTL227 Nov 2024#16

Thank you for the correction. I would rather find out here than later.

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v.fontaineTL228 Nov 2024#17

Anybody returning after a break should expect to start lower than they left, and expecting otherwise is where injuries come from.

Someone will know this better than I do and I hope they say so.

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z.yildizTL229 Nov 2024#18

This follows post #15 rather than contradicting it.

Nothing here is medical advice and anybody with a relevant condition should have a programme reviewed by somebody qualified rather than assembled from a forum.

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p.boatengTL230 Nov 2024#19
r.frisk, post #7: Thank you for taking the time. That was more work than a reply usually is. Go to post

Recording sessions is what makes progression visible. Without a log, load creep and load decline both go unnoticed.

That is my reading. Someone else read the same page differently and was reasonable.

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l.chevalierTL3Regular1 Dec 2024#20
KForsberg, post #3: Reduced appetite makes fuelling a session harder, and that is a practical problem with practical solutions rather than a reason to stop. The disagreement above is smaller than it looks once the terms are fixed. Go to post

Cardiovascular work has its own benefits and is not a substitute for a resistance stimulus for this particular purpose.

I would want a second opinion before relying on that.

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peak_purityTL3Analytical chemist2 Dec 2024#21

Post #20 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not.

Where I would look next, rather than where I would stop.

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no.silvaTL23 Dec 2024#22

I read post #18 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Reduced appetite makes fuelling a session harder, and that is a practical problem with practical solutions rather than a reason to stop.

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np_gilmoreTL3Nurse practitioner4 Dec 2024#23
c.adebayo, post #15: The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not. I am describing what is, rather than arguing for what should be. Go to post

Frequency: three sessions per week of full-body training is easier to maintain than higher frequencies on an energy deficit. Consistency beats intensity when recovery capacity is limited.

Happy to expand any of that if it is the useful part.

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r.mensaTL25 Dec 2024#24
peak_purity, post #21: Post #20 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not. Where I would look next, rather than where I would stop. Go to post

Volume: the number of sets per muscle group per week that supports muscle maintenance is roughly 12 to 18 hard sets. That varies by individual but gives a target range.

The conclusion is tentative; the arithmetic underneath it is not.

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m.dalgaardTL3Regular6 Dec 2024#25

Reduced appetite makes fuelling a session harder, and that is a practical problem with practical solutions rather than a reason to stop.

That is the honest state of it as of this week.

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a.jansenTL27 Dec 2024#26

Everything in post #22 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Recording sessions is what makes progression visible. Without a log, load creep and load decline both go unnoticed.

I checked the source rather than the summary, and they differ.

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policy_readerTL28 Dec 2024#27
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e.adeyemiTL29 Dec 2024#28
peak_purity, post #21: Post #20 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. The reports here that state the programme, the load and the timeframe are useful. The ones that state an outcome are not. Where I would look next, rather than where I would stop. Go to post

Second this, and I would have said it less carefully.

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g.tanakaTL3Regular10 Dec 2024#29
e.adeyemi, post #28: Second this, and I would have said it less carefully. Go to post

Frequency: three sessions per week of full-body training is easier to maintain than higher frequencies on an energy deficit. Consistency beats intensity when recovery capacity is limited.

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m.mwangiTL210 Dec 2024#30

Cardiovascular work has its own benefits and is not a substitute for a resistance stimulus for this particular purpose.

Caveat: everything above assumes the paperwork is what it says it is.

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