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Why catalogue breadth is not evidence of anything — what changed since posts 61–67

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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OkaforTL3Regular2 Oct 2025#61

Thank you for the correction. I would rather find out here than later.

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il.dumitruTL23 Oct 2025 · edited#62

On post #58 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Thymosin alpha-1 has a regulatory history in several jurisdictions and a real clinical literature, which puts it in a different evidential category from most of its neighbours here.

The general answer and the answer for your case may diverge here.

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g.haalandTL3Regular4 Oct 2025#63
h.varga, post #52: This subcategory exists because some people will research compounds outside the main groups discussed here. The standard of evidence and honesty about its limits applies to everything discussed, not just to approved drugs. That is what the documentation says. What happens in practice is usually close. Go to post

PT-141 was developed from the same family with a different receptor profile, and it has a considerably better documented human evidence base than most compounds discussed in this subcategory.

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e.coelhoTL25 Oct 2025#64

This subcategory exists because some people will research compounds outside the main groups discussed here. The standard of evidence and honesty about its limits applies to everything discussed, not just to approved drugs.

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f.abrahamsenTL2Member7 Oct 2025#65

Where the catalogue breadth discussion usually stalls is that nobody wants to say "I do not know" and everyone is willing to say "it varies". Those are the same sentence with different clothes on.

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ca.haddadTL28 Oct 2025#66

Why catalogue breadth is not evidence of anything: a supplier listing 500 compounds does not make the 450 untested ones likely to work. It makes them untested compounds with supplier pages.

I have said this before in a thread nobody could find, so it is worth repeating.

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GDashwoodTL3Regular9 Oct 2025#67
h.lindqvist, post #49: Narrowing post #46, because the general version has more than one answer. Two things can be true about catalogue breadth at once: the mechanism is plausible and the evidence for the size of the effect is thin. Most of the argument here is people defending the first against attacks on the second. Go to post

Post #64 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

A compound with no established assay is a compound where a certificate can say almost anything. That is not an accusation about anyone; it is a statement about what a document can carry.

Old habit: I write down the expected answer before I calculate it.

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