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A history of disordered eating: proceeding carefully

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r.bruunTL26 Nov 2025#1

A history of disordered eating: proceeding carefully Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

I would like to disagree carefully with the settled view on history of disordered eating, and I would like to be argued out of it if the disagreement is bad.

The disagreement is about one step, not about the conclusion. If the step holds I withdraw it entirely.

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e.kuuselaTL29 Nov 2025#2

Careful with the language on history of disordered eating. "Not detected" and "not present" are different findings and the first is a statement about the method.

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ppm_errorTL3Analytical chemist11 Nov 2025#3
e.kuusela, post #2: Careful with the language on history of disordered eating. "Not detected" and "not present" are different findings and the first is a statement about the method. Go to post

On the opening post — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

The social side of this — how other people respond to visible change — comes up constantly and has nothing to do with pharmacology.

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b.vanheckeTL213 Nov 2025#4
r.bruun, post #1: A history of disordered eating: proceeding carefully Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did. I would like to disagree carefully with the settled view on history of disordered eating, and I would like to be argued out of it if the disagreement is bad. The disagreement is about one step, not… Go to post

On history of disordered eating the community has more anecdote than the confidence in this thread implies, and I include my own contribution in that.

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n.haddadTL215 Nov 2025#5

Noted, and I have changed what I was going to do on the strength of it.

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n.stanescuTL216 Nov 2025#6

Post #4 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Social and relationship impacts: weight change affects how others perceive and interact with a person. Those impacts are real and can be psychologically significant.

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator18 Nov 2025#7

History of disordered eating: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which.

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s.coelhoTL219 Nov 2025#8
j.mwangi, post #7: History of disordered eating: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which. Go to post

Posting my history of disordered eating numbers with the method attached so they can be discounted properly. Uncontrolled, unblinded, and collected by someone who wanted a particular answer.

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m.silvaTL221 Nov 2025#9

Everything in post #6 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Maintenance brings a different set of psychological questions from loss, and the discussion here is much thinner on that phase.

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c.vermeulenTL222 Nov 2025#10

Narrowing post #9, because the general version has more than one answer.

Having read the whole history of disordered eating thread before replying: the question in the first post has not actually been answered yet, and three of us have answered a nearby one instead.

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IMainwaringTL3Regular23 Nov 2025#11

If you are in crisis, contact a local emergency or crisis service rather than posting. A volunteer forum cannot help and waiting costs time.

I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it.

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l.lundgrenTL225 Nov 2025#12
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TamburelloTL2Member26 Nov 2025#13

Taking post #10 at face value and following it one step further.

History of disordered eating came up in a thread eighteen months ago and was answered well. I cannot find it, which is itself the problem, so here is the reconstruction.

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v.okonkwoTL227 Nov 2025#14

Reading back through, this was answered upthread and I missed it. My fault.

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a.kwiatkowskiTL2Member29 Nov 2025#15
j.mwangi, post #7: History of disordered eating: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which. Go to post

Post #13 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Counterpoint on history of disordered eating, offered without confidence: the same observation is consistent with a much duller explanation, and nobody has ruled the dull one out.

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m.amankwahTL230 Nov 2025#16
IMainwaring, post #11: If you are in crisis, contact a local emergency or crisis service rather than posting. A volunteer forum cannot help and waiting costs time. I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it. Go to post

Where a member is finding this hard, the useful reply is usually a question rather than an answer, and this subcategory does that well.

I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge.

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NardoneTL2Member1 Dec 2025 · edited#17

Mood and anxiety: mood changes and anxiety are reported by some people. Baseline mental health status matters for risk. Someone with a history of depression should plan closer monitoring.

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l.vermeulenTL22 Dec 2025#18

Worth separating two things that post #16 runs together.

Checked the history of disordered eating claim against the primary source this morning. It survives, with a narrower scope than the version quoted here. Posting the narrower scope.

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c.inglethorpeTL33 Dec 2025#19
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f.chowdhuryTL25 Dec 2025#20

Post #16 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Motivation and expectation: starting with clear motivation and realistic expectations about what will happen and when helps with psychological adjustment.

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diluent_watchTL2Member6 Dec 2025#21
IMainwaring, post #11: If you are in crisis, contact a local emergency or crisis service rather than posting. A volunteer forum cannot help and waiting costs time. I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it. Go to post

History of disordered eating is worth one more sentence than it usually gets, and the sentence is the one about how the number was arrived at.

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z.vogelTL27 Dec 2025#22

An honest declaration on history of disordered eating: I have a prior here and it is strong enough that you should weight what I say downward. Stating it rather than hiding it.

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ZieglerTL3Regular8 Dec 2025#23

Eating-disorder history is raised here regularly and is the case where guidance most consistently recommends specialist involvement.

The general answer and the answer for your case may diverge here.

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m.dumitruTL29 Dec 2025#24
l.vermeulen, post #18: Worth separating two things that post #16 runs together. Checked the history of disordered eating claim against the primary source this morning. It survives, with a narrower scope than the version quoted here. Posting the narrower scope. Go to post

Confirming post #21 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Expectations set by other people's reported trajectories are a documented source of distress, and the trajectories posted are not representative.

Adding this to the thread rather than to the wiki, because I am not confident enough for the wiki.

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h.nicolaidesTL3Regular10 Dec 2025#25
m.amankwah, post #16: Where a member is finding this hard, the useful reply is usually a question rather than an answer, and this subcategory does that well. I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge. Go to post

Adding a reference point for history of disordered eating. Mine is a single case, collected without controls, and I am posting the method alongside it so it can be discounted appropriately.

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in.guerreroTL211 Dec 2025#26

Thank you for taking the time. That was more work than a reply usually is.

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glossary_lineTL1Member12 Dec 2025 · edited#27

Coming back to post #25, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Support and community: some people process weight change through community (online or in-person). Others prefer privacy. Knowing what you need and seeking it proactively helps.

I have separated what I observed from what I concluded, which does not always happen.

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ca.vermeulenTL213 Dec 2025#28

Post #25 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

The failure mode on history of disordered eating is boring rather than dramatic. It is almost always the step everyone assumes was done correctly because it is too simple to get wrong.

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RidgewayTL3Regular14 Dec 2025#29

Post #25 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Adding a null result on history of disordered eating. I looked, carefully, and found nothing, and null results deserve posting precisely because they never are.

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i.grimaldiTL216 Dec 2025#30

Taking post #29 at face value and following it one step further.

Substance use: if someone has a history of substance use, appetite suppression and weight loss can shift thinking about body and substance use. This is a risk factor worth acknowledging.

I am aware this is the third time this month I have made this point.

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