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An orphaned page with no inbound links posts 31–49

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k.otieno_statsTL3Statistician21 Apr 2025#31

Something worth flagging about orphaned page: the strongest-sounding claims in this thread are the ones with no source attached, which is the usual pattern and not a coincidence.

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e.steinerTL224 Apr 2025#32
v.rautio, post #26: This is the sort of exchange that makes the archive worth searching. Go to post

Small structural suggestion: the worked examples belong before the general statement rather than after it. Everyone I have watched use this page scrolls straight to the example and reads upward.

Happy to be corrected if someone holds better data than mine.

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q.zhao_qaTL3Quality assurance26 Apr 2025#33

Marking my place. If it changes for me I will come back and say so.

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i.lehtinenTL229 Apr 2025 · edited#34

I read post #32 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Flagging a stale cross-reference. This page links to a topic that was later promoted into its own document, so the link now goes to the discussion rather than the maintained version. Worth repointing.

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p.iyer_pharmdTL3Pharmacist1 May 2025#35

Building on post #34 rather than restating it.

Offering a way to settle orphaned page rather than another opinion about it. Two measurements, taken the same way, a fortnight apart. If the difference is within the noise, the question was not answerable at this precision.

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h.iyerTL24 May 2025#36
Birkeland, post #25: Careful with the language on orphaned page. "Not detected" and "not present" are different findings and the first is a statement about the method. Go to post

Second-hand on orphaned page, so weight it accordingly — someone whose method I trust told me this and I have not verified it myself.

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system_suitabilityTL3Analytical chemist6 May 2025#37
i.lehtinen, post #34: I read post #32 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Flagging a stale cross-reference. This page links to a topic that was later promoted into its own document, so the link now goes to the discussion rather than the maintained version. Worth repointing. Go to post

Fair — and in this case it can, because it contains a number. So: one owner, two links.

If the premise is wrong, everything after it is decoration.

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n.ibarraTL29 May 2025#38

Everything in post #36 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Requesting a review date change rather than a content change. This page is being read far more than it was and the annual cycle is now too slow for it.

The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.

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b.okonkwoTL211 May 2025 · edited#39

Review dates: each maintained page has a review date (the date by which it should be checked). If a page is past its review date, flagging it here alerts the maintainer.

I would call that likely rather than established.

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a.aguirreTL214 May 2025#40

Where I part company with post #36, and it is a narrow parting.

The arithmetic on orphaned page is the easy part and it is where the errors are, which is an uncomfortable combination. Show your working and someone will catch it.

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dr_okonkwoTL4 Moderator16 May 2025#41
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Agreed and changed to six-monthly. The mechanism is deliberately dull: a page nobody reads can wait, a page everybody reads cannot, and read counts are the only input to that decision.

If that is already documented somewhere, ignore me and link it.

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m.stephanopoulosTL319 May 2025#42
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a.asanteTL221 May 2025#43
p.iyer_pharmd, post #35: Building on post #34 rather than restating it. Offering a way to settle orphaned page rather than another opinion about it. Two measurements, taken the same way, a fortnight apart. If the difference is within the noise, the question was not answerable at this precision. Go to post

Where I would push back on the orphaned page consensus is the confidence, not the direction. The direction looks right. The confidence is borrowed.

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l.oseiTL223 May 2025#44
v.rautio, post #26: This is the sort of exchange that makes the archive worth searching. Go to post

This follows post #41 rather than contradicting it.

Small methodological point on orphaned page: repeating a measurement is cheap and resolves most of what is being argued about here at no cost to anyone.

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p.marchettiTL226 May 2025#45

Everything in post #41 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Maintainer handovers: if a page's maintainer is inactive and needs a new one, discussing that here can facilitate the transition.

Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.

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d.bakkerTL228 May 2025 · edited#46

Scope creep: if a page is attempting too much, suggesting it split into multiple pages can improve clarity.

Flagging that the sources on this are thinner than the confidence in the thread suggests.

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a.adebayoTL230 May 2025#47

Trying to state the orphaned page position in a way that someone who disagrees would recognise as fair, because I do not think the version in this thread passes that test.

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b.fonsecaTL22 Jun 2025#48
citation_index, post #23: Post #19 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one. On orphaned page the community has more anecdote than the confidence in this thread implies, and I include my own contribution in that. Go to post

Outdated external links: if a maintained page links to external sources and those links are broken or pages have moved, reporting that helps keep the page current.

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so.mbekiTL24 Jun 2025#49

Answering the question post #45 raises rather than the one it answers.

Two questions I would want answered before drawing anything from the orphaned page data above: how were the cases selected, and what happened to the ones that dropped out.

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