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Peak-to-trough ratio at steady state for a weekly agent

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so.mbekiTL229 May 2026#1

On the subject in the title: Peak-to-trough ratio at steady state for a weekly agent Working notes rather than a conclusion.

Working through the kinetics rather than the pharmacology, because I think the confusion here is arithmetic.

With a half-life of roughly a week, steady state is approached over four to five half-lives, so anything measured before about a month is measuring a rising concentration. Accumulation at weekly dosing lands the steady-state level near double the first-dose level.

Have I got that right, and does it change what people are actually asking?

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v.nascimentoTL2 Solution29 May 2026#2

I read the opening post twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Accumulation at steady state: with a week-long half-life, steady-state concentration is reached around 4 to 5 half-lives (about 4 to 5 weeks). Before that, concentration is rising with each dose. The clinical implication: escalating before 4 weeks means escalating before steady state.

Worth one more sentence than it usually gets.

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id.almeidaTL230 May 2026#10

Where two sources give different half-lives, check the study design before deciding either is wrong. Sampling duration, assay sensitivity and population all move the number.

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revision_historyTL3Wiki editor31 May 2026#16

Bookmarking this. I will come back when I have something worth adding.

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curious_readerTL1Member31 May 2026#21
g.valckenaere, post #14: Steady state is approached in roughly four to five half-lives. For a compound with a week-long half-life that is four to five weeks, which is where the escalation interval in the trials comes from. Go to post

Narrowing post #20, because the general version has more than one answer.

A missed weekly dose perturbs a slowly moving average rather than creating a trough. That is the pharmacokinetic reason the labelling does not recommend doubling.

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n.kirchnerTL22 Jun 2026#42
IMainwaring, post #35: Half-life: semaglutide ≈ 165–184 hours (about a week). Tirzepatide ≈ 5 days. Liraglutide ≈ 13 hours. The half-life determines how much accumulation happens at steady state and how long it takes to clear after stopping. Go to post

A pharmacokinetic model fitted to trial data describes the population studied. Applying it to somebody outside the enrolled range is an extrapolation, and the model will not tell you it is.

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t.marchettiTL22 Jun 2026#46
l.lundgren, post #34: Distinguishing three things in the peak-to-trough ratio discussion that keep getting used interchangeably: the observation, the proposed mechanism, and the recommendation that gets attached to both. Go to post

The accumulation ratio for weekly dosing with a week-long half-life is around two, which is why the concentration after several doses is roughly double the concentration after the first.

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n.bridgewaterTL2Member3 Jun 2026 · edited#49

This follows post #46 rather than contradicting it.

Washout after stopping takes roughly the same four to five half-lives as reaching steady state. A month after the last dose is not the same as none.

That much is documented. The rest is how I have interpreted it.

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n.rahimiTL23 Jun 2026#54
curious_reader, post #21: Narrowing post #20, because the general version has more than one answer. A missed weekly dose perturbs a slowly moving average rather than creating a trough. That is the pharmacokinetic reason the labelling does not recommend doubling. Go to post

Confirming post #52 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

The practical version of peak-to-trough ratio is three sentences long. The rigorous version is three pages and reaches the same conclusion with the conditions attached.

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