This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
No notes. Posting so the count is not one.
The claim about Programming during a large energy upthread is stronger than its source supports. I have read the source. The source says "associated with" and the post says "causes".
Coming back to post #92, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Recovery capacity falls with energy availability, so a programme that worked at maintenance may be too much during a large deficit.
The mechanism is plausible, which is not the same as established.
Post #92 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
A resistance stimulus during a deficit is the other half of the lean-tissue argument, and the evidence for it is reasonably strong.
I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this.
Maintenance phases are where most people report training going best, which is unsurprising and is worth saying to anybody struggling during loss.
That has held every time I have looked, which is not the same as always.
Performance usually declines somewhat during a substantial deficit, and expecting it to improve is the most common source of disappointment reported here.
Post #95 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
Maintenance is the goal: preserving lean mass and strength during weight loss is the goal of resistance training in this context, not building new muscle. That goal is usually achievable with consistent, moderate training.
Anyone who has looked at this more carefully, please correct the record.
On post #95 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.
Where training is new, the early gains are largely neural, which is why they can appear even during a deficit and do not indicate tissue change.
The right answer here may simply be that it has not been measured.
Picking up post #99: that is the part I would want checked first.
Maintaining load with reduced volume is a reasonable strategy during a deficit and appears in the published literature more than the reverse.
Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in.
Recovery: heavier training on a energy deficit and on a compound that slows gastric emptying requires attention to recovery (sleep, nutrition, stress). Recovery capacity declines with deficit, so training volume might need adjustment.
I have written this out at length because the short version keeps being misread.
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