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The "under review" status pill and when a moderator applies it — a second dataset

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l.vermeulenTL28 Aug 2025#1

The "under review" status pill and when a moderator applies it — a second dataset Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

A question about how this site should cite something that has not been reviewed.

I want to reference a preprint in a maintained document. The convention I understand is to label the status in the sentence itself rather than in a footnote, and to record the date the version was checked.

Is that the whole convention, or is there a further step for the case where the preprint is later published with different numbers?

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a.reyesTL4 Admin9 Aug 2025#2

If you cite a preprint in a maintained document here, the convention is to label it in the sentence and to note the check date. The document review will catch the update.

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m.ibarraTL210 Aug 2025#3

Screening on a preprint server is minimal and is not review. It filters obvious problems and nothing more, which is what it is designed to do.

Not a strong opinion, just a consistent one.

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s.leclercTL4 Moderator10 Aug 2025#4

Adding the measurement that the opening post says would settle it.

Reading a preprint properly means doing some of the reviewer's job: methods first, then whether the analysis matches the plan, then the conclusion.

If anyone has run this properly I would rather read that than my own guess.

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p.mbekiTL211 Aug 2025#5

Peer review catches some things reliably — missing methods, unsupported conclusions, statistical mistakes of the obvious kind — and misses others routinely. Knowing which is which makes preprint reading easier.

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a.friskTL211 Aug 2025#6

Unrefereed work is not worthless and a great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. That is the accurate framing and it is not a licence to treat it as final.

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j.steinerTL212 Aug 2025#7
a.reyes, post #2: If you cite a preprint in a maintained document here, the convention is to label it in the sentence and to note the check date. The document review will catch the update. Go to post

On post #5 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Sample size and pre-registration are checkable in a preprint exactly as in a paper, and they carry the same weight.

If anyone can point at the primary source I would be grateful.

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n.moreauTL212 Aug 2025#8

Picking up post #5: that is the part I would want checked first.

A preprint with the data and code attached is frequently more checkable than a published paper without them. Reviewed and reproducible are different properties.

I would rather post the uncertainty than round it away.

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KTurkingtonTL3Regular13 Aug 2025#9
n.moreau, post #8: Picking up post #5: that is the part I would want checked first. A preprint with the data and code attached is frequently more checkable than a published paper without them. Reviewed and reproducible are different properties. I would rather post the uncertainty than round it away. Go to post

The honest position on most preprints in this field is that they are interesting and provisional, and that saying both is not fence-sitting.

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f.novakTL213 Aug 2025#10
j.steiner, post #7: On post #5 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. Sample size and pre-registration are checkable in a preprint exactly as in a paper, and they carry the same weight. If anyone can point at the primary source I would be grateful. Go to post

How to cite a preprint: author last name, first initial, et al. Title. Server name [preprint]. Posted date. Doi. Include the server name and note that it is a preprint.

Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise.

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an.adeyemiTL213 Aug 2025#11
a.frisk, post #6: Unrefereed work is not worthless and a great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. That is the accurate framing and it is not a licence to treat it as final. Go to post

Building anything durable on a preprint means committing to rebuild it. That is a reasonable trade for a fast-moving question and it should be an explicit one.

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e.lokkenTL214 Aug 2025 · edited#12

Coming back to post #8, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

The most useful convention this subcategory has: state the status, state the version, state the date you checked. Three short clauses and the citation stays honest.

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c.rasmussenTL214 Aug 2025#13

Media coverage of preprints rarely mentions the status. That is where most of the downstream confusion in this subcategory originates.

None of the above is medical advice and I am not qualified to give any.

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j.sorensenTL215 Aug 2025#14

That matches what I have seen, for whatever a single anecdote is worth.

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e.mwangiTL215 Aug 2025#15

Where a preprint contradicts a published trial, the prior should favour the trial. Where it extends one, the preprint can be genuinely useful.

For what it is worth, the same held on the two occasions I checked.

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h.koodziejTL2Member15 Aug 2025#16

Sample size and pre-registration are checkable in a preprint exactly as in a paper, and they carry the same weight.

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l.ferreiraTL216 Aug 2025#17

Adding the measurement that post #15 says would settle it.

Unrefereed work is not worthless. A great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. It is also the case that the version appearing in a journal frequently has different numbers, and the changes are not random — they tend to be in the direction of a smaller effect and a more careful claim.

The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.

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e.silvaTL216 Aug 2025#18
m.ibarra, post #3: Screening on a preprint server is minimal and is not review. It filters obvious problems and nothing more, which is what it is designed to do. Not a strong opinion, just a consistent one. Go to post

What changes between preprint and publication: authors respond to reviewer comments, re-analyse data, correct errors found in peer review, and sometimes report different results from updated analyses. The published version is not the same as the preprint.

Adding it because I spent an afternoon working it out and nobody should have to twice.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist16 Aug 2025#19

Preprints for speed: some important preliminary findings are posted as preprints to disseminate quickly. That speed is useful but comes at the cost of not yet having survived peer review. The trade-off is real.

I have changed my mind on this once already, so take it as current rather than settled.

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m.adeyemiTL217 Aug 2025#20
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am.wikstromTL217 Aug 2025#21

Answering the question post #17 raises rather than the one it answers.

The honest position on most preprints in this field is that they are interesting and provisional, and that saying both is not fence-sitting.

I have no interest in any supplier named above.

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b.brandtTL218 Aug 2025 · edited#23

Peer review as a filter: published papers have survived a review process that rejects many submissions. Preprints have not. Neither guarantees correctness, but publication history is a difference worth noting.

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d.magalhesTL2Member18 Aug 2025#24

Author track record is a weak signal and it is a signal. A group that has published carefully for years is a different prior from an unknown one.

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c.kuuselaTL218 Aug 2025#25

Say it is a preprint in the first line rather than the last. Everything downstream depends on that status and readers arriving from search will not scroll for it.

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taper_fileTL3Regular19 Aug 2025#26
chromatogram, post #19: Preprints for speed: some important preliminary findings are posted as preprints to disseminate quickly. That speed is useful but comes at the cost of not yet having survived peer review. The trade-off is real. I have changed my mind on this once already, so take it as current rather than settled. Go to post

Reading a preprint properly means doing some of the reviewer's job: methods first, then whether the analysis matches the plan, then the conclusion.

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a.molnarTL219 Aug 2025#27

Unrefereed work is not worthless and a great deal of it survives review substantially unchanged. That is the accurate framing and it is not a licence to treat it as final.

That is the version I would defend. It is not the version I started with.

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DSakamotoTL3Regular19 Aug 2025#28

Post #25 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Say it is a preprint in the first line rather than the last. Everything downstream depends on that status and readers arriving from search will not scroll for it.

I have deliberately not rounded that, because the rounding is where the argument starts.

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d.achebeTL220 Aug 2025#29
m.ibarra, post #3: Screening on a preprint server is minimal and is not review. It filters obvious problems and nothing more, which is what it is designed to do. Not a strong opinion, just a consistent one. Go to post

Understood. Thank you for being specific about the limits of it.

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NorringtonTL3Regular20 Aug 2025#30

Picking up post #28: that is the part I would want checked first.

Media coverage of preprints rarely mentions the status. That is where most of the downstream confusion in this subcategory originates.

Reporting the observation and leaving the explanation open deliberately.

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