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Tirzepatide storage and stability: what is published versus what is assumed — does this still hold?

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j.vogelTL23 Oct 2024#3

Research-use-only tirzepatide is not approved for human use and is not made to pharmaceutical standards. Anyone discussing it here is describing what they did, not recommending it.

I would rather be precise about what I do not know than vague about what I do.

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l.ibarraTL2Regular26 Oct 2024 · edited#6

Post #3 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Heart rate rises modestly across this class, tirzepatide included. It is consistent, small, and worth knowing about rather than worth alarm — and it is one of the reasons the trials monitored it explicitly.

One of those cases where knowing the mechanism does not help the decision.

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a.kirchnerTL22 Nov 2024#7

The five maintenance doses in the tirzepatide programme give a genuine dose-response curve, which is unusual. Most trials in this space compare one or two doses against placebo and cannot say anything about the shape of the relationship.

I would treat that as a working assumption and revisit it.

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j.marchettiTL215 Dec 2024#14

Where I part company with post #10, and it is a narrow parting.

Content versus purity applies here as everywhere: a lyophilised vial can be highly pure and contain less peptide than the label states, because the balance of the mass is water, counter-ion and excipient.

Nothing above should be read as advice about what anyone else should do.

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g.bakkenTL26 Jan 2025#18

I had written a reply contradicting post #14 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Mass and charge states: tirzepatide is about 4813.5 Da and on an electrospray instrument you would expect to see charge states mostly in the 2+ to 4+ range, the same as semaglutide. A doubly charged species would appear at about (4813.5 + 2 × 1.008) / 2 ≈ 2408.

I am confident about the direction and much less about the magnitude.

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