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Anaesthesia and elective surgery: the aspiration question posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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k.radichTL224 Feb 2026#31

Adding what did not work for me on anaesthesia and elective surgery, since the failures never get written up and they are half the useful information.

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h.mbekiTL225 Feb 2026 · edited#32

My understanding of anaesthesia and elective surgery is a few years old and may have been superseded. If it has been, I would genuinely like to know rather than keep repeating it.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin26 Feb 2026#33
c.ramos, post #18: Adding the measurement that post #16 says would settle it. The claim about anaesthesia and elective surgery upthread is stronger than its source supports. I have read the source. The source says "associated with" and the post says "causes". Go to post

Anyone asking an interaction question should list everything, including the things they consider irrelevant. The irrelevant one is the answer more often than chance would suggest.

Written from notes rather than memory, which is why the numbers are specific.

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j.steinerTL227 Feb 2026#34

Post #31 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

The bit of anaesthesia and elective surgery that nobody enjoys is that the answer changes depending on what you are trying to decide with it. Say what the decision is and the thread will converge.

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s.leclercTL4 Moderator28 Feb 2026#35

An observation about anaesthesia and elective surgery that I cannot explain and am posting anyway, on the principle that unexplained observations are more useful public than private.

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l.salinasTL21 Mar 2026#36

Where a published interaction study exists it usually reports an area-under-curve ratio, and that number is far more informative than a yes-or-no answer.

A modest claim, modestly supported.

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ms_hollowayTL4Mass spectrometrist2 Mar 2026#37
ni.stanescu, post #24: Insulin and sulfonylureas are the interaction that the labelling in this class flags most explicitly, because the risk is additive glucose lowering. That is a prescribing question and not a forum question. Go to post

Everything in post #35 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Anaesthesia and elective surgery: I would want to see the raw numbers rather than the summary before agreeing. Summaries lose exactly the information that would settle this.

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n.silvaTL23 Mar 2026#38
e.kuusela, post #16: Anaesthesia and elective surgery has a well-known answer and a correct answer, and the interesting work is establishing that they are the same. Nobody has done that here yet. Go to post

Narrowing post #35, because the general version has more than one answer.

The reason anaesthesia and elective surgery is hard to answer is that the obvious measurement and the relevant quantity are not the same thing, and substituting one for the other is silent.

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dr.villanuevaTL3Physician4 Mar 2026#39

Nothing to add, except that this is the answer I would give if asked.

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y.adebayoTL25 Mar 2026#40

Picking up post #38: that is the part I would want checked first.

The most defensible general position in this subcategory: identify the plausible mechanism, check whether it has been studied, and where it has not, say that rather than filling the gap.

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e.bakkenTL26 Mar 2026#41
j.castellanos, post #11: Something worth flagging about anaesthesia and elective surgery: the strongest-sounding claims in this thread are the ones with no source attached, which is the usual pattern and not a coincidence. Go to post

Narrowing post #40, because the general version has more than one answer.

Renal or hepatic impairment changes the calculus for a lot of combinations and is the context most often missing from an interaction question here.

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RodriguesTL3Regular7 Mar 2026#42

Everything in post #38 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

A pharmacist can answer most questions in this subcategory in a few minutes with access to a proper interaction database, and that access is the thing a forum does not have.

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an.zamoraTL28 Mar 2026#43

Anaesthesia and elective surgery came up in a thread eighteen months ago and was answered well. I cannot find it, which is itself the problem, so here is the reconstruction.

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SHermansenTL2Member9 Mar 2026#44
y.adebayo, post #40: Picking up post #38: that is the part I would want checked first. The most defensible general position in this subcategory: identify the plausible mechanism, check whether it has been studied, and where it has not, say that rather than filling the gap. Go to post

That reframing is the whole thing. The facts I already had.

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y.adeyemiTL210 Mar 2026#45

The arithmetic in post #43 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

A supplement is a drug for interaction purposes, and the fact that it is sold without a prescription tells you nothing about whether it interacts. The paperwork is usually worse rather than better.

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a.thorneTL2Wiki editor10 Mar 2026#46

Mechanistic reasoning about interactions has a poor predictive record. It is a good way to generate a question and a bad way to answer one.

I would put the burden of proof on the interesting explanation, not the dull one.

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j.sandvikTL211 Mar 2026 · edited#47
n.silva, post #38: Narrowing post #35, because the general version has more than one answer. The reason anaesthesia and elective surgery is hard to answer is that the obvious measurement and the relevant quantity are not the same thing, and substituting one for the other is silent. Go to post

The arithmetic on anaesthesia and elective surgery is the easy part and it is where the errors are, which is an uncomfortable combination. Show your working and someone will catch it.

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FConsidineTL1Member12 Mar 2026#48
GEldridge, post #2: On the opening post — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification. A pharmacist can answer most questions in this subcategory in a few minutes with access to a proper interaction database, and that access is the thing a forum does not have. Genuinely open to being wrong about this one. Go to post

Post #46 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Where the anaesthesia and elective surgery discussion usually stalls is that nobody wants to say "I do not know" and everyone is willing to say "it varies". Those are the same sentence with different clothes on.

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br.wikstromTL213 Mar 2026#49
h.jansen, post #3: That is the distinction I keep failing to hold on to. Written down now. Go to post

Anticoagulant questions come up regularly and are the clearest case for professional advice rather than discussion, because the consequence of being wrong is not gradual.

That has held every time I have looked, which is not the same as always.

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crossover_entryTL3Regular14 Mar 2026#50
v.salgado, post #14: Reframing anaesthesia and elective surgery slightly, because I think the disagreement is about the question rather than the answer. If the question is "does it happen", yes. If it is "how often", nobody here knows. Go to post

Two sentences on anaesthesia and elective surgery and then I will stop, because the rest is speculation and the thread is better without mine.

What is documented is narrow. What is inferred from it is broad. The gap between them is where every argument here lives.

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m.agyemanTL215 Mar 2026#51
z.adeyemi, post #7: Post #4 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. The useful distinction on anaesthesia and elective surgery is between what was measured and what was inferred from it. Both end up in the same sentence and only one of them has error bars. Go to post

Nothing here is medical advice and an interaction question is one where the cost of a wrong forum answer is genuinely high. Ask the prescriber or the pharmacist.

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taper_tableTL3Regular16 Mar 2026#52

I would put moderate confidence on the mainstream reading of anaesthesia and elective surgery and no more. That is not scepticism for its own sake; it is where the sourcing actually stops.

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t.verhoevenTL217 Mar 2026#53

I had written a reply contradicting post #49 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Nobody has said the unglamorous part of anaesthesia and elective surgery yet, so: most of the variation is explained by things that are boring to write about and easy to check.

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HRouhaniTL1Member18 Mar 2026#54

Following this. I have the same question and no better information than the first post.

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e.mensaTL219 Mar 2026#55
lu.cabrera, post #13: Answering the question post #9 raises rather than the one it answers. The documentation on anaesthesia and elective surgery is better than this thread and I say that as someone who has posted in the thread. Go to post

SGLT2 inhibitors: frequently co-administered and relevant to renal and cardiovascular discussion, not to interactions. There is no pharmacokinetic interaction of concern.

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vial_deskTL3Regular20 Mar 2026#56

Where I have landed on anaesthesia and elective surgery, having got it wrong once in public: the direction is clear, the magnitude is not, and anyone quoting a precise magnitude has borrowed it from somewhere that did not measure it.

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t.tullochTL220 Mar 2026 · edited#57

Where I part company with post #53, and it is a narrow parting.

A pharmacist can answer most questions in this subcategory in a few minutes with access to a proper interaction database, and that access is the thing a forum does not have.

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BBramleyTL3Regular21 Mar 2026#58
h.mbeki, post #32: My understanding of anaesthesia and elective surgery is a few years old and may have been superseded. If it has been, I would genuinely like to know rather than keep repeating it. Go to post

Small correction to my own earlier position on anaesthesia and elective surgery. I had the units the wrong way round, which changes the conclusion by an order of magnitude and therefore changes it entirely.

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m.achebeTL222 Mar 2026#59

This is the sort of exchange that makes the archive worth searching.

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v.krastevTL223 Mar 2026#60
e.bakken, post #41: Narrowing post #40, because the general version has more than one answer. Renal or hepatic impairment changes the calculus for a lot of combinations and is the context most often missing from an interaction question here. Go to post

Narrowing post #57, because the general version has more than one answer.

The reason anaesthesia and elective surgery keeps being re-asked is that the answer is conditional and people quote it without the condition. It is not that the answer is unknown.

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