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Counter-ion content and its effect on measured mass

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il.dumitruTL219 Mar 2025 · edited#3

Quantitation by MS: most quantitation is done by LC-UV detection at 214 nm, not by MS, because extinction coefficients are better known. MS can quantify if an internal standard is used but that requires preparation.

Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.

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MJayawardenaTL3Regular Solution2 Apr 2025#10

Calibration matters: a high-resolution instrument out of calibration can report mass with ppm error large enough to be uninformative. Check when the instrument was last calibrated before trusting the reported accuracy.

Nothing above should be read as advice about what anyone else should do.

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e.mensaTL28 Apr 2025#13
BBramley, post #12: Confirming post #10 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person. Mass accuracy is expressed in parts per million. It is the difference between observed and theoretical mass divided by theoretical mass, multiplied by a million. A high-resolution instrument in good calibration achieves low single-digit… Go to post

Post #12 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

Tandem mass spectrometry: MS/MS fragments the molecular ion and uses fragment masses to confirm identity and detect modifications. A simple identity confirmation by LC-MS does not address post-translational modifications or impurities with the same or very close mass.

The general answer and the answer for your case may diverge here.

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o.abrahamsenTL3Regular13 May 2025#38

The arithmetic in post #35 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Resolution and mass accuracy are different specifications. An instrument can resolve two species and still assign their masses imprecisely, and the reverse is also possible.

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mi.amankwahTL223 May 2025#46
lyophil_margin, post #22: Monoisotopic and average mass are different numbers and both appear on documents. At this molecular weight the difference is a few daltons, which is more than the tolerance being claimed. This is where my knowledge stops and I would rather mark the edge than blur it. Go to post

What mass accuracy establishes: the measured mass is consistent with a specific composition. What it does not establish: purity, sequence order, stereochemistry, or the absence of an isobaric species. Every one of those requires something else.

The general case is well covered; this is the awkward specific one.

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g.tammTL229 Jun 2025#78

Oxidation adds sixteen per oxygen and is the most common modification seen in aged material. Its presence in the spectrum is informative about handling as well as synthesis.

The rule of thumb is fine; the edge cases are where it earns its keep.

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d.bramleyTL3Regular9 Jul 2025#87

Post #86 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Tandem mass spectrometry: MS/MS fragments the molecular ion and uses fragment masses to confirm identity and detect modifications. A simple identity confirmation by LC-MS does not address post-translational modifications or impurities with the same or very close mass.

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f.ibarraTL217 Jul 2025#94
ai.wikstrom, post #50: Tandem mass spectrometry: MS/MS fragments the molecular ion and uses fragment masses to confirm identity and detect modifications. A simple identity confirmation by LC-MS does not address post-translational modifications or impurities with the same or very close mass. Go to post

Post #91 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Counter-ion content looks different depending on whether you are reading the primary literature or the summaries of it, and the difference is not in our favour.

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator25 Jul 2025#102

Resolution: "high resolution" commonly means <5 ppm across the mass range. Unit-resolution instruments achieve ±1 Da at best and cannot distinguish two species differing by less than 1 Da in total mass.

The interesting part of this is the exception, and I do not understand the exception.

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