Asking directly, because I could not find a straight answer: Meeting a protein target on a suppressed appetite — does this still hold?
Posting a small dataset on Meeting a protein target. It is mine, it is uncontrolled, and the method is stated so it can be discounted appropriately.
What I would like is not agreement but a second dataset collected by someone with no stake in mine. If one exists I would rather read it than argue for this one.
Distribution across the day appears to matter less than total for most outcomes, and it matters practically because a single large meal is harder when appetite is reduced.
Adding the caveat now so it does not have to be extracted later.
Protein supplements: whey, casein, and plant-based protein powders can help hit targets when whole-food intake is limited by appetite. Protein quality (all essential amino acids) matters more than form.
My experience of Meeting a protein target contradicts the reply above. I am posting it as a data point rather than as a refutation, because one person's experience is exactly that.
Answering the question post #4 raises rather than the one it answers.
Liquid versus solid: protein in liquid form (shakes) is easier to consume in volume but might not be as satiating as solid food. Using both together can help.
Meeting protein targets on suppressed appetite: this is where the practical difficulty lies. Eating more protein when appetite is suppressed is genuinely hard. Front-loading the day, prioritising density over volume, and accepting this is a problem worth solving all help.
The variance between people here is larger than the effect being discussed.
Adding the measurement that post #6 says would settle it.
The mechanism is not mysterious. Substantial energy restriction with inadequate protein and no resistance stimulus loses lean tissue as well as fat.
Worth separating two things that post #8 runs together.
Timing of protein: spreading protein intake across the day, with some at each meal, is more practical than trying to hit the whole target at one sitting on suppressed appetite.
Adding a note of thanks rather than an opinion. I did not know most of that.
Practical note on Meeting a protein target: write down what you expect before you look. The number of times I have found what I went looking for is higher than chance would allow.
Taking post #15 at face value and following it one step further.
Micronutrition alongside protein: eating protein foods that are also good sources of micronutrients (iron, B vitamins, zinc) solves two problems at once.
One more caveat and then I will stop qualifying: the sample selected itself.
Renal considerations around higher protein intake apply to people with existing renal impairment and are frequently generalised beyond that population.
I am reporting what happened, not recommending it.
Maintenance changes the calculation and almost nobody revisits their target when they get there.
I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this.
A target that is not being met is worth adjusting downward to something achievable rather than being missed indefinitely.
Taking post #20 at face value and following it one step further.
Leucine and MPS: leucine stimulates muscle protein synthesis at a threshold of roughly 2 to 3 grams per meal. That influences how much protein per meal matters, but total daily protein still matters most.
The answer changed when I changed how I was measuring, which was informative.
Fibre: adequate fibre intake supports fullness and gut motility, both of which matter during the gastrointestinal effects of these compounds. High fibre on top of appetite suppression requires attention to hydration and gradual introduction.
That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it.
The version of Meeting a protein target that I was taught turned out to be a teaching simplification. Useful, and not true in the way I had assumed it was.
I read post #22 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
Micronutrient adequacy becomes a real question at very low total intake and is much less discussed than protein.
Reading this Meeting a protein target thread as someone who came in with a fixed view: the third and seventh replies moved me and the confident ones did not.