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New subcategory: rationale and scope posts 121–139

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c.adebayoTL225 Oct 2025#121

The edit is clearer. For anyone arriving now, read the edited version — the confusion in the replies above is about wording that no longer exists.

The general answer and the answer for your case may diverge here.

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h.karlsenTL225 Oct 2025#122
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so.cardosoTL226 Oct 2025 · edited#123
f.espinoza, post #41: This follows post #38 rather than contradicting it. New subcategory was covered in the wiki last year and the page has a review date on it, which is a better starting point than my memory of a thread. Go to post

Coming back to post #121, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Where the new subcategory discussion usually stalls is that nobody wants to say "I do not know" and everyone is willing to say "it varies". Those are the same sentence with different clothes on.

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s.dziedzicTL226 Oct 2025#124

Post #121 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

RSS: if you prefer to receive announcements by feed rather than visiting the site, RSS is available for this subcategory.

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a.silvaTL226 Oct 2025#125

If you are new and reading this thread for the answer to new subcategory: the answer is conditional, the conditions are in the third reply, and the rest of the thread is worth skipping.

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o.cousineauTL3Regular26 Oct 2025#126
chromatogram, post #57: No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored. Go to post

Offering a way to settle new subcategory rather than another opinion about it. Two measurements, taken the same way, a fortnight apart. If the difference is within the noise, the question was not answerable at this precision.

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d.barrosTL226 Oct 2025#127
v.kirchner, post #30: Answering the question post #26 raises rather than the one it answers. One question about the transition rather than the policy: what happens to topics that are in flight when it takes effect? The announcement is clear about posts and silent about drafts. Adding it in case it saves somebody the afternoon it cost me. Go to post

I read post #125 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

One question about the transition rather than the policy: what happens to topics that are in flight when it takes effect? The announcement is clear about posts and silent about drafts.

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m.ivaturiTL226 Oct 2025#128

Second-hand on new subcategory, so weight it accordingly — someone whose method I trust told me this and I have not verified it myself.

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mira.patelTL4 Admin26 Oct 2025#129
Staff post. Actions described here are recorded in the public moderation log and may be challenged in Meta.

Good catch — drafts are unaffected and will post under the new behaviour when they are published. That should have been in the announcement and has been added to it with a note saying it was added.

Reporting the observation and leaving the explanation open deliberately.

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h.delgadoTL226 Oct 2025#130

Adding the measurement that post #129 says would settle it.

The bit of new subcategory that nobody enjoys is that the answer changes depending on what you are trying to decide with it. Say what the decision is and the thread will converge.

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a.kwiatkowskiTL2Member26 Oct 2025#131

Adding the measurement that post #128 says would settle it.

Whatever the answer on new subcategory turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, invite the correction.

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t.vargaTL226 Oct 2025#132

Useful. I have added it to my own notes with the date on it.

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IRenaudinTL2Member27 Oct 2025 · edited#133
se.okafor, post #94: Building on post #91 rather than restating it. On new subcategory, the part that usually goes wrong is that the question is asked as though it has one answer. It has a range, and the width of the range is the interesting bit. If you can post the two or three numbers you are working from, several people here will check the arithmetic… Go to post

Thank you for announcing it in advance rather than after. The number of places that do the reverse is remarkable.

Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in.

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n.kaufmannTL227 Oct 2025#134

The version of new subcategory that I was taught turned out to be a teaching simplification. Useful, and not true in the way I had assumed it was.

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crossover_entryTL3Regular27 Oct 2025#135

Picking up post #133: that is the part I would want checked first.

One caution on new subcategory: everything above assumes the underlying documentation is what it claims to be. That assumption is doing real work and is rarely stated.

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l.lundgrenTL227 Oct 2025#136

The edit is clearer. For anyone arriving now, read the edited version — the confusion in the replies above is about wording that no longer exists.

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NardoneTL2Member27 Oct 2025#137
p.mwangi, post #83: Taking post #81 at face value and following it one step further. Adding a reference point for new subcategory. Mine is a single case, collected without controls, and I am posting the method alongside it so it can be discounted appropriately. Go to post

I have been on both sides of the new subcategory argument in this category within eighteen months, which should tell you how strong the evidence for either side is.

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l.vermeulenTL227 Oct 2025#138
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o.abrahamsenTL3Regular27 Oct 2025#139

One question about the transition rather than the policy: what happens to topics that are in flight when it takes effect? The announcement is clear about posts and silent about drafts.

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