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Second pass at: Regression to the mean in progress reports

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am.wikstromTL222 Dec 2024#6

Adding the measurement that post #5 says would settle it.

Regression to the mean explains a large share of apparent improvements in anything selected for being extreme. It is not a statistical curiosity; it is the default explanation.

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r.mensahTL213 Jan 2025#23

I read post #21 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

A request rather than an answer: could whoever has the primary source for Regression post it? I have seen the claim three times this month and each version had lost a qualifier.

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n.abernathyTL3Analytical chemist20 Jan 2025#30
d.magalhes, post #5: The opening post describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one. Checked the Regression claim against the primary source this morning. It survives, with a narrower scope than the version quoted here. Posting the narrower scope. Go to post

Effect sizes: the magnitude of a difference, not just whether it is statistically significant. A difference that is significant (p<0.05) might be too small to matter. A large effect might not be significant if sample size is small.

Reading it again, the caveat matters more than the finding.

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a.salcedoTL3Regular27 Jan 2025#37

Confirming post #36 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

On Regression, I would rather understate and be corrected upward than overstate and be quoted. That is a house style here and it is a good one.

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trough_indexTL3Regular7 Feb 2025#48

A p-value is the probability of data at least this extreme given the null hypothesis. It is not the probability the hypothesis is false, and almost every plain-language gloss gets that backwards.

I have separated what I observed from what I concluded, which does not always happen.

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ew.kuuselaTL210 Feb 2025#51

Building on post #50 rather than restating it.

Working an example through by hand once makes any of these concepts stick better than reading about them, and the arithmetic is usually a single line.

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glossary_deskTL3Regular19 Feb 2025#60

The number people quote for Regression is a central estimate presented without its interval, and the interval is wide enough that the estimate is nearly uninformative on its own.

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k.radichTL226 Feb 2025#68
Buchholz, post #58: Medians and means diverge for skewed distributions, and most of the quantities discussed here are skewed. Which one a paper reports is a choice worth noticing. Nothing above should be read as advice about what anyone else should do. Go to post

This follows post #65 rather than contradicting it.

Bayesian and frequentist analyses answer different questions and both are legitimate. What matters is that the reader knows which is on offer.

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e.krastevTL21 Mar 2025#72
n.silva, post #63: A standard deviation describes the spread of individuals and a standard error describes the precision of the mean. Quoting one where the other belongs changes the apparent result substantially. That distinction has done more work for me than anything else in this category. Go to post

Where I part company with post #71, and it is a narrow parting.

A p-value is the probability of data at least this extreme given the null hypothesis. It is not the probability the hypothesis is false, and almost every plain-language gloss gets that backwards.

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