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Second pass at: The topic list is dense — is that deliberate? posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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mira.patelTL4 Admin29 Dec 2025#31
Wendelboe, post #23: The counter-argument is that a review date on a topic implies a maintenance promise nobody has made. A document carries one because somebody signed up to it. Go to post

One more thing on topic list that took me far too long to see: the two figures people quote are not measuring the same quantity. Once you notice that, the apparent contradiction disappears.

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c.boatengTL231 Dec 2025#32
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a.adebayoTL21 Jan 2026#33

Post #31 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Reporting a real defect: on a long topic the jump-to-post link scrolls to the right post but the highlight does not fire on the first load. Second load is fine. Reproducible on my end, twice.

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r.laurentTL22 Jan 2026#34

Agreed, and I will stop repeating the version of this I had been repeating.

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p.marchettiTL23 Jan 2026#35
n.ibarra, post #30: Picking up post #29: that is the part I would want checked first. Feature request framed as feedback: the category list is long enough that a first-time reader cannot tell which four categories carry most of the traffic. A count next to each would fix that without changing anything structural. The conclusion is tentative; the arithmetic… Go to post

Adding the measurement that post #33 says would settle it.

The practical version of topic list is three sentences long. The rigorous version is three pages and reaches the same conclusion with the conditions attached.

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b.fonsecaTL25 Jan 2026#36

Post #35 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

I would keep topic list and the decision it usually gets used for separate in this thread. They are related and they are not the same question, and merging them is why the last one went badly.

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a.asanteTL26 Jan 2026#37

Last piece of feedback: the site is much better on a narrow screen than it was six months ago and nobody said so at the time. Recording it because only the failures usually get reported.

A qualification I should have led with rather than closed on.

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d.bakkerTL27 Jan 2026#38
z.szabo, post #24: Reporting a real defect: on a long topic the jump-to-post link scrolls to the right post but the highlight does not fire on the first load. Second load is fine. Reproducible on my end, twice. Marking that as an opinion rather than a finding. Go to post

On topic list the community has more anecdote than the confidence in this thread implies, and I include my own contribution in that.

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m.dalgaardTL3Regular8 Jan 2026#39

The arithmetic in post #36 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Navigation problems: if you cannot find something you expected to exist, or the path to it is unclear, report it. Site architecture affects usability.

Not the whole picture, but the part of it I can speak to.

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator10 Jan 2026#40
Staff post. Actions described here are recorded in the public moderation log and may be challenged in Meta.

That distinction is real and staff have discussed it twice without deciding. The risk is that a topic marked unanswered discourages the reply that would answer it. If anyone has seen it work elsewhere, say so — that is the missing evidence.

Speaking for myself and not for anyone else who has posted here.

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n.abernathyTL3Analytical chemist11 Jan 2026 · edited#41
b.fonseca, post #36: Post #35 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one. I would keep topic list and the decision it usually gets used for separate in this thread. They are related and they are not the same question, and merging them is why the last one went badly. Go to post

Reframing topic list slightly, because I think the disagreement is about the question rather than the answer. If the question is "does it happen", yes. If it is "how often", nobody here knows.

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n.kuuselaTL212 Jan 2026#42
ma.nascimento, post #28: Before the thread moves on from topic list — what is the sample size behind the claim? I am not being difficult; I have seen the same figure quoted from an n of four and from an n of four hundred. Go to post

Something worth flagging about topic list: the strongest-sounding claims in this thread are the ones with no source attached, which is the usual pattern and not a coincidence.

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PharmNotes_WhitfieldTL4Pharmacist13 Jan 2026#43

Suggestion rather than complaint: the vendor pages carry a review date, and topics do not. A topic that has been read by a maintainer recently is a different thing from one nobody has looked at since 2024.

That distinction has done more work for me than anything else in this category.

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s.cabreraTL214 Jan 2026#44

The arithmetic in post #43 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

The bit of topic list that nobody enjoys is that the answer changes depending on what you are trying to decide with it. Say what the decision is and the thread will converge.

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bench_notesTL4 Moderator16 Jan 2026#45

Where I part company with post #43, and it is a narrow parting.

The counter-argument is that a review date on a topic implies a maintenance promise nobody has made. A document carries one because somebody signed up to it.

That is a description of practice, not a recommendation of it.

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v.baptistaTL217 Jan 2026#46
citation_peak, post #25: Worth separating two things that post #21 runs together. Two things can be true about topic list at once: the mechanism is plausible and the evidence for the size of the effect is thin. Most of the argument here is people defending the first against attacks on the second. Go to post

Offering a way to settle topic list rather than another opinion about it. Two measurements, taken the same way, a fortnight apart. If the difference is within the noise, the question was not answerable at this precision.

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f.villalobosTL218 Jan 2026#47

Moderation decisions: if you disagree with a moderation decision, raising it here gives it visibility. Staff will reconsider if you make a substantive case.

Small point, but it is the one that usually catches people.

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t.pereiraTL219 Jan 2026#48

Adding the measurement that post #47 says would settle it.

Where the topic list discussion usually stalls is that nobody wants to say "I do not know" and everyone is willing to say "it varies". Those are the same sentence with different clothes on.

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b.aaltoTL220 Jan 2026#49
a.adebayo, post #33: Post #31 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Reporting a real defect: on a long topic the jump-to-post link scrolls to the right post but the highlight does not fire on the first load. Second load is fine. Reproducible on my end, twice. Go to post

Worth separating two things that post #47 runs together.

The arithmetic on topic list is the easy part and it is where the errors are, which is an uncomfortable combination. Show your working and someone will catch it.

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e.lehtinenTL221 Jan 2026#50

This follows post #47 rather than contradicting it.

Guideline clarity: if the guidelines are unclear or seem to be applied inconsistently, post the specific situation so staff can clarify or reconsider.

That has been true for the cases I have seen and I have not seen many.

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s.beaulieuTL222 Jan 2026 · edited#51

Topic list: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which.

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JFitzgibbonTL2Member24 Jan 2026#52

Careful with the language on topic list. "Not detected" and "not present" are different findings and the first is a statement about the method.

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ka.haddadTL225 Jan 2026#53

Post #50 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Accessibility: screen readers, keyboard navigation, contrast, font size — if something is not accessible to you, report it. Accessibility matters.

A partial answer, offered because a partial answer beats none.

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a.salcedoTL3Regular26 Jan 2026#54
a.asante, post #37: Last piece of feedback: the site is much better on a narrow screen than it was six months ago and nobody said so at the time. Recording it because only the failures usually get reported. A qualification I should have led with rather than closed on. Go to post

Topic list looks different depending on whether you are reading the primary literature or the summaries of it, and the difference is not in our favour.

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i.oseiTL227 Jan 2026#55

Adding thanks rather than a view. I do not have a view worth the space.

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cohort_driftTL3Regular28 Jan 2026#56

What I want from this topic list thread is the list of things that would need to be true for the claim to hold. If we can write that list, we can check it.

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to.vargaTL229 Jan 2026#57

Confirming post #54 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Community norms: if you think a norm has drifted or is not being followed consistently, raising it here can prompt discussion and realignment.

I have said this before in a thread nobody could find, so it is worth repeating.

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g.haalandTL3Regular30 Jan 2026#58
a.adebayo, post #33: Post #31 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit. Reporting a real defect: on a long topic the jump-to-post link scrolls to the right post but the highlight does not fire on the first load. Second load is fine. Reproducible on my end, twice. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #56 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Posting my topic list numbers with the method attached so they can be discounted properly. Uncontrolled, unblinded, and collected by someone who wanted a particular answer.

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r.coelhoTL231 Jan 2026#59
f.villalobos, post #47: Moderation decisions: if you disagree with a moderation decision, raising it here gives it visibility. Staff will reconsider if you make a substantive case. Small point, but it is the one that usually catches people. Go to post

Building on post #58 rather than restating it.

The version of topic list that I was taught turned out to be a teaching simplification. Useful, and not true in the way I had assumed it was.

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MJayawardenaTL3Regular2 Feb 2026#60

Post #56 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

That would also be the fastest way for a new member to understand what R6 actually catches, which is narrower than people assume from the text.

That is the version I would defend. It is not the version I started with.

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