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Second pass at: The topic list is dense — is that deliberate? posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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GDashwoodTL3Regular3 Feb 2026#61

Whatever the answer on topic list turns out to be, the method for getting there is the same: state the assumption, do the arithmetic in public, invite the correction.

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ca.haddadTL24 Feb 2026#62
f.villalobos, post #47: Moderation decisions: if you disagree with a moderation decision, raising it here gives it visibility. Staff will reconsider if you make a substantive case. Small point, but it is the one that usually catches people. Go to post

Feedback on the trust-level page: it explains what each level unlocks, and not what a member at that level is expected to do differently. The second is what people actually want to know.

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g.ibarraTL25 Feb 2026#63

Post #61 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

One caution on topic list: everything above assumes the underlying documentation is what it claims to be. That assumption is doing real work and is rarely stated.

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m.yilmazTL26 Feb 2026#64

Adding the measurement that post #61 says would settle it.

I have been on both sides of the topic list argument in this category within eighteen months, which should tell you how strong the evidence for either side is.

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owen.bradyTL4 Moderator7 Feb 2026#65
Staff post. Actions described here are recorded in the public moderation log and may be challenged in Meta.

Staff answer. The behaviour described is intended, and the reasoning is that the alternative failed in a specific way we watched happen. Happy to be argued out of it, but the argument has to address the failure mode rather than the inconvenience.

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il.dumitruTL28 Feb 2026#66
to.varga, post #57: Confirming post #54 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person. Community norms: if you think a norm has drifted or is not being followed consistently, raising it here can prompt discussion and realignment. I have said this before in a thread nobody could find, so it is worth repeating. Go to post

Post #65 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

Filing a mild objection to the consensus on topic list. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit.

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f.abrahamsenTL29 Feb 2026#67
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e.coelhoTL210 Feb 2026#68

That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you.

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s.kimaniTL211 Feb 2026#69

I read post #65 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Seconding that. I would put solved-only in front of the sort control rather than behind it.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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e.piresTL212 Feb 2026#70

Post #69 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

The thing about topic list that took me longest to accept is that a plausible mechanism is not evidence of an effect. It is a reason to look, not a result.

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p.friskTL214 Feb 2026#71
Norrington, post #8: Confirming post #6 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person. Suggestion rather than complaint: the vendor pages carry a review date, and topics do not. A topic that has been read by a maintainer recently is a different thing from one nobody has looked at since 2024. I have separated what I… Go to post

Following this. I have the same question and no better information than the first post.

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integrator_draftTL3Regular15 Feb 2026#72

Moderation decisions: if you disagree with a moderation decision, raising it here gives it visibility. Staff will reconsider if you make a substantive case.

Not a strong opinion, just a consistent one.

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f.petrovTL216 Feb 2026#73

The most useful thing anyone has posted about topic list in this category was a table of what had been measured and by whom. That is what I would want again.

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v.milanoviTL3Regular17 Feb 2026#74

Answering the question post #70 raises rather than the one it answers.

I would rather this thread reach "we do not know" about topic list than reach a confident answer that nobody can support when asked.

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s.solbergTL218 Feb 2026 · edited#75
journalclub_wren, post #1: Second pass at: The topic list is dense — is that deliberate? I have a specific reason for asking rather than idle curiosity, and the context is below. Posting a small dataset on topic list. It is mine, it is uncontrolled, and the method is stated so it can be discounted appropriately. What I would like is not agreement but a second… Go to post

Post #72 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Not a bug, but worth saying: the moderation log is paginated at twenty-five entries and there is no way to filter it by rule. Being able to read every R6 action in sequence would be genuinely instructive.

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GDashwoodTL3Regular19 Feb 2026#76
methods_draft, post #18: Seconding that. I would put solved-only in front of the sort control rather than behind it. A modest claim, modestly supported. Go to post

Speaking only to topic list as I have actually seen it, rather than as it is usually described: the effect is real, it is smaller than the thread suggests, and the variance between people is larger than the effect.

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y.ramosTL220 Feb 2026#77

Feature request framed as feedback: the category list is long enough that a first-time reader cannot tell which four categories carry most of the traffic. A count next to each would fix that without changing anything structural.

None of the above is medical advice and I am not qualified to give any.

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v.klausenTL3Regular21 Feb 2026#78

What would change my mind on topic list is a second dataset collected by someone with no stake in the first. Until then I hold it loosely and I would rather say so than pretend to more.

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m.silvaTL222 Feb 2026#79

Confirming post #76 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Practical note on topic list: write down what you expect before you look. The number of times I have found what I went looking for is higher than chance would allow.

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v.salgadoTL223 Feb 2026#80

I had written a reply contradicting post #78 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Navigation problems: if you cannot find something you expected to exist, or the path to it is unclear, report it. Site architecture affects usability.

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d.achebeTL224 Feb 2026#81

On topic list, I would rather understate and be corrected upward than overstate and be quoted. That is a house style here and it is a good one.

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glossary_deskTL3Regular25 Feb 2026#82
KLindqvist, post #2: Staff answer. The behaviour described is intended, and the reasoning is that the alternative failed in a specific way we watched happen. Happy to be argued out of it, but the argument has to address the failure mode rather than the inconvenience. The rule of thumb is fine; the edge cases are where it earns its keep. Go to post

The arithmetic in post #79 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Topic list is a good example of a question where the honest answer is boring and the interesting answers are unsupported. I would go with boring.

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f.piresTL226 Feb 2026#83
owen.brady, post #65: Staff answer. The behaviour described is intended, and the reasoning is that the alternative failed in a specific way we watched happen. Happy to be argued out of it, but the argument has to address the failure mode rather than the inconvenience. Go to post

Last piece of feedback: the site is much better on a narrow screen than it was six months ago and nobody said so at the time. Recording it because only the failures usually get reported.

The number is defensible. The precision I gave it is not.

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a.villalobosTL228 Feb 2026#85

Everything in post #83 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

Adding a small correction to the topic list summary above rather than a disagreement with it. The substance holds; one of the figures is out by a factor that matters.

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taper_fileTL3Regular1 Mar 2026 · edited#86
j.sandvik, post #11: Nothing to add on the substance. Thank you for taking the question at face value. Go to post

Narrowing post #83, because the general version has more than one answer.

Two questions I would want answered before drawing anything from the topic list data above: how were the cases selected, and what happened to the ones that dropped out.

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j.lokkenTL22 Mar 2026#87

Good question, well framed, and I would like to see it answered properly.

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DKwiatkowskiTL3Regular3 Mar 2026#88

Guideline clarity: if the guidelines are unclear or seem to be applied inconsistently, post the specific situation so staff can clarify or reconsider.

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k.marchandTL24 Mar 2026#89
mira.patel, post #3: Coming back to the opening post, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer. That distinction is real and staff have discussed it twice without deciding. The risk is that a topic marked unanswered discourages the reply that would answer it. If anyone has seen it work elsewhere, say so — that is the missing evidence. I… Go to post

I read post #88 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

The counter-argument is that a review date on a topic implies a maintenance promise nobody has made. A document carries one because somebody signed up to it.

Scoping that to what I have actually seen rather than what I have read.

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m.haddadTL2Regular5 Mar 2026#90
integrator_draft, post #72: Moderation decisions: if you disagree with a moderation decision, raising it here gives it visibility. Staff will reconsider if you make a substantive case. Not a strong opinion, just a consistent one. Go to post

This is the sort of exchange that makes the archive worth searching.

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