Marking my place. If it changes for me I will come back and say so.
Seven-day rolling means and why weekly readings mislead posts 61–90
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
Weighing daily and reporting weekly is a better protocol than weighing weekly, because it separates the measurement frequency from the reporting frequency.
The interesting part of this is the exception, and I do not understand the exception.
What I would want before treating seven-day rolling as settled: the method, the sample, and whether anyone tried to find the opposite result. Two of the three are usually missing.
Reading back through the seven-day rolling threads from last year, the same three questions come up every time and only one of them has ever been answered properly. That seems like a documentation gap rather than a knowledge gap.
I read post #62 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.
The evidence for this is thinner than the way I have phrased it suggests.
Small correction to my own earlier position on seven-day rolling. I had the units the wrong way round, which changes the conclusion by an order of magnitude and therefore changes it entirely.
The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.
Adding the boring version of seven-day rolling, because the interesting version keeps getting posted and the boring one is usually right.
Check the ordinary explanations, in order, and stop when one of them accounts for what you are seeing. Most of the time the second one does.
State the method before the numbers. Same scale, same time of day, same conditions — without that a series is a collection of readings rather than a measurement.
I have left out the parts I could not verify.
Adding the measurement that post #72 says would settle it.
Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.
State the method before the numbers. Same scale, same time of day, same conditions — without that a series is a collection of readings rather than a measurement.
The general answer and the answer for your case may diverge here.
Thank you for taking the time. That was more work than a reply usually is.
Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.
Taking post #76 at face value and following it one step further.
On seven-day rolling I would separate what is worth knowing from what is worth acting on. The first list is long and the second is short, and conflating them is how threads get heated.
Reporting rather than recommending, on seven-day rolling. What happened is above. Whether it should have is a different question and not one I am qualified to answer.
Collapsed as off-topic by two members at trust level 3 or above
Post #79 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.
If you are new and reading this thread for the answer to seven-day rolling: the answer is conditional, the conditions are in the third reply, and the rest of the thread is worth skipping.
Where the seven-day rolling discussion usually stalls is that nobody wants to say "I do not know" and everyone is willing to say "it varies". Those are the same sentence with different clothes on.
Coming back to post #83, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Something worth flagging about seven-day rolling: the strongest-sounding claims in this thread are the ones with no source attached, which is the usual pattern and not a coincidence.
Fine by me. I had wanted a stronger conclusion and there is not one available.
The bit of seven-day rolling that nobody enjoys is that the answer changes depending on what you are trying to decide with it. Say what the decision is and the thread will converge.
If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding.
That has held every time I have looked, which is not the same as always.
A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.
Seven-day rolling has a well-known answer and a correct answer, and the interesting work is establishing that they are the same. Nobody has done that here yet.