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Seven-day rolling means and why weekly readings mislead posts 61–90

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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r.mcalisterTL3Regular19 Jul 2026#61

Marking my place. If it changes for me I will come back and say so.

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c.chowdhuryTL219 Jul 2026#62

Weighing daily and reporting weekly is a better protocol than weighing weekly, because it separates the measurement frequency from the reporting frequency.

The interesting part of this is the exception, and I do not understand the exception.

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j.rasmussenTL2Regular19 Jul 2026#63
dietitian_hollis, post #33: Nothing to add on the substance. Thank you for taking the question at face value. Go to post

What I would want before treating seven-day rolling as settled: the method, the sample, and whether anyone tried to find the opposite result. Two of the three are usually missing.

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i.balogunTL219 Jul 2026#64
DOdendaal, post #19: Seven-day rolling: I have looked for the primary source twice and failed twice. Either it does not exist or it is somewhere I do not know to look, and I would like to know which. Go to post

Reading back through the seven-day rolling threads from last year, the same three questions come up every time and only one of them has ever been answered properly. That seems like a documentation gap rather than a knowledge gap.

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bias_varianceTL4Biostatistician20 Jul 2026 · edited#65

I read post #62 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.

The evidence for this is thinner than the way I have phrased it suggests.

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s.ostergaardTL220 Jul 2026#66

Small correction to my own earlier position on seven-day rolling. I had the units the wrong way round, which changes the conclusion by an order of magnitude and therefore changes it entirely.

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batchlogTL3Regular20 Jul 2026#67

On seven-day rolling: the maintained page in the documentation commons covers the general case with citations and a review date, which is more reliable than any reply here including this one.

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m.steinerTL220 Jul 2026#68
v.salgado, post #28: Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise. Go to post

The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence.

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compounding_ruthTL4Pharmacist20 Jul 2026#69

Adding the boring version of seven-day rolling, because the interesting version keeps getting posted and the boring one is usually right.

Check the ordinary explanations, in order, and stop when one of them accounts for what you are seeing. Most of the time the second one does.

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n.laurentTL220 Jul 2026#70

Post #69 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Seasonal patterns: some people report weight loss is slower in winter than summer. Body composition and activity changes might contribute. Noting the season is useful context.

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a.lindholmTL220 Jul 2026 · edited#71

State the method before the numbers. Same scale, same time of day, same conditions — without that a series is a collection of readings rather than a measurement.

I have left out the parts I could not verify.

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h.mbekiTL221 Jul 2026#72

Where I part company with post #70, and it is a narrow parting.

The arithmetic on seven-day rolling is the easy part and it is where the errors are, which is an uncomfortable combination. Show your working and someone will catch it.

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b.vestergaardTL221 Jul 2026#73
m.nascimento, post #55: Taking post #54 at face value and following it one step further. Self-reported intake is optimistic in a consistent direction, and saying so in your own report is more credible than not. Go to post

Adding the measurement that post #72 says would settle it.

Non-scale victories: muscle gain or maintenance, clothing fit, energy level, and capability (like climbing stairs without breathlessness) are measurements that scale-based weight misses.

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c.delgadoTL221 Jul 2026#74

Worth stating the null on seven-day rolling before we explain it: the observation may be nothing. That possibility deserves a sentence and usually does not get one.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin21 Jul 2026#75

Offering a way to settle seven-day rolling rather than another opinion about it. Two measurements, taken the same way, a fortnight apart. If the difference is within the noise, the question was not answerable at this precision.

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k.dahlbergTL221 Jul 2026#76

State the method before the numbers. Same scale, same time of day, same conditions — without that a series is a collection of readings rather than a measurement.

The general answer and the answer for your case may diverge here.

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k.radichTL221 Jul 2026#77
MSaarinen, post #50: That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you. Go to post

Thank you for taking the time. That was more work than a reply usually is.

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b.oseiTL221 Jul 2026#78
m.steiner, post #68: The best progress reports here read as records rather than as arguments, and that difference is visible within a sentence. Go to post

Menstrual cycle: for people who menstruate, weight can shift by several pounds across the cycle due to fluid retention and other factors. Noting cycle phase when weighing reduces apparent noise.

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h.bhattacharyaTL221 Jul 2026#79

Taking post #76 at face value and following it one step further.

On seven-day rolling I would separate what is worth knowing from what is worth acting on. The first list is long and the second is short, and conflating them is how threads get heated.

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c.inglethorpeTL3Regular22 Jul 2026#80

Reporting rather than recommending, on seven-day rolling. What happened is above. Whether it should have is a different question and not one I am qualified to answer.

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i.balogunTL222 Jul 2026#81

A seven-day rolling mean of daily readings has a much smaller standard error and makes most apparent plateaus and sudden drops disappear.

Adding it because I spent an afternoon working it out and nobody should have to twice.

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r.mcalisterTL322 Jul 2026#82
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a.iyerTL222 Jul 2026#83
IMainwaring, post #10: Weighing daily and reporting weekly is a better protocol than weighing weekly, because it separates the measurement frequency from the reporting frequency. That is what the documentation says. What happens in practice is usually close. Go to post

Where the seven-day rolling discussion usually stalls is that nobody wants to say "I do not know" and everyone is willing to say "it varies". Those are the same sentence with different clothes on.

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f.demirTL2Regular22 Jul 2026#84

Maintenance series are the ones this subcategory needs most and receives least. The interesting questions all change once loss stops.

For what it is worth, the same held on the two occasions I checked.

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n.boatengTL222 Jul 2026#85

Coming back to post #83, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Something worth flagging about seven-day rolling: the strongest-sounding claims in this thread are the ones with no source attached, which is the usual pattern and not a coincidence.

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g.pemberton_ukTL3Regional · UK22 Jul 2026 · edited#86
dr_okonkwo, post #39: My experience of seven-day rolling contradicts the reply above. I am posting it as a data point rather than as a refutation, because one person's experience is exactly that. Go to post

Fine by me. I had wanted a stronger conclusion and there is not one available.

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h.friskTL223 Jul 2026#87
c.marchetti, post #20: Careful with the language on seven-day rolling. "Not detected" and "not present" are different findings and the first is a statement about the method. Go to post

The bit of seven-day rolling that nobody enjoys is that the answer changes depending on what you are trying to decide with it. Say what the decision is and the thread will converge.

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dexa_twice_yearlyTL3Regular23 Jul 2026#88

If a pattern survives a rolling-mean treatment it is worth explaining. Most do not, and that is the useful finding.

That has held every time I have looked, which is not the same as always.

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s.chowdhuryTL3Regular23 Jul 2026#89

A single scale used throughout beats a more accurate scale introduced halfway through. Consistency beats accuracy for a trend.

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methods_marginTL3Regular23 Jul 2026#90

Seven-day rolling has a well-known answer and a correct answer, and the interesting work is establishing that they are the same. Nobody has done that here yet.

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