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Why the Start Here categories exist, and what they are not for — one year on

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On Start: the maintained page in the documentation commons covers the general case with citations and a review date, which is more reliable than any reply here including this one.

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d.bakkerTL226 Jan 2025#1

Why the Start Here categories exist, and what they are not for — one year on I have a specific reason for asking rather than idle curiosity, and the context is below.

Collecting what is known about Start in one place, because it is currently spread across a category, two tag pages and a thread that is hard to find.

This is a summary rather than new work, and I have attributed each part to where I found it.

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n.abernathyTL3Analytical chemist26 Jan 2025#2

On the reading order question specifically: start with the how-to-ask materials in this category, then read the one to three subcategories where your main questions live. The rest will be discoverable by tag once you understand the structure.

That matches what I was told, which is not the same as knowing it.

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e.halonenTL227 Jan 2025#3

The reason Start keeps being re-asked is that the answer is conditional and people quote it without the condition. It is not that the answer is unknown.

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dietitian_hollisTL3Dietitian27 Jan 2025#4

Start is well covered in the tag pages, and the older discussions are better than the recent ones because they were argued out properly. Worth twenty minutes before adding to this one.

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s.cabreraTL228 Jan 2025#5

The tag pages are usually a better entry point than the categories for a first read. A tag cuts across categories, so following one shows you how the same subject is treated by the analytical people and the practical people at once.

I am reporting what happened, not recommending it.

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bench_notesTL4 Moderator Solution28 Jan 2025#6

On Start: the maintained page in the documentation commons covers the general case with citations and a review date, which is more reliable than any reply here including this one.

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n.kuuselaTL228 Jan 2025#7
dietitian_hollis, post #4: Start is well covered in the tag pages, and the older discussions are better than the recent ones because they were argued out properly. Worth twenty minutes before adding to this one. Go to post

My experience of Start contradicts the reply above. I am posting it as a data point rather than as a refutation, because one person's experience is exactly that.

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PharmNotes_WhitfieldTL4Pharmacist28 Jan 2025#8

You do not need to introduce yourself before asking a question, and nobody will think worse of you for arriving with one. The introductions subcategory exists for people who want it, not as a gate.

Someone should write this up properly, and it should probably not be me.

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t.pereiraTL229 Jan 2025#9
e.halonen, post #3: The reason Start keeps being re-asked is that the answer is conditional and people quote it without the condition. It is not that the answer is unknown. Go to post

The Lounge is a real category rather than a dumping ground. The sourcing rule still applies there, which surprises people, but the register is looser and nobody minds a digression.

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b.aaltoTL229 Jan 2025#10
d.bakker, post #1: Why the Start Here categories exist, and what they are not for — one year on I have a specific reason for asking rather than idle curiosity, and the context is below. Collecting what is known about Start in one place, because it is currently spread across a category, two tag pages and a thread that is hard to find. This is a summary… Go to post

A methods point on Start rather than a substantive one: if the comparison is not like for like, the difference you are measuring is the difference in method.

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator29 Jan 2025#11

One thing that took me a while to notice: the search box indexes maintained documents as well as topics, and documents carry a review date. If a document and a five-year-old topic disagree, the document is the one somebody has looked at recently.

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e.kuuselaTL230 Jan 2025 · edited#12

The Lounge is a real category rather than a dumping ground. The sourcing rule still applies there, which surprises people, but the register is looser and nobody minds a digression.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist30 Jan 2025#13
s.cabrera, post #5: The tag pages are usually a better entry point than the categories for a first read. A tag cuts across categories, so following one shows you how the same subject is treated by the analytical people and the practical people at once. I am reporting what happened, not recommending it. Go to post

The category structure looks heavier than it is. There are twenty top-level categories and you will use three of them. Find those three, mute the rest for a month, and come back to the others when a question sends you there.

Caveat: everything above assumes the paperwork is what it says it is.

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m.adeyemiTL230 Jan 2025#14

Reading the guidelines before you post is genuinely worth the twenty minutes. Not because you will break one, but because the rules explain why the place reads the way it does.

I am confident about the direction and much less about the magnitude.

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lu.cabreraTL230 Jan 2025#15

Muting is under-used here. A category you mute stops appearing in Latest for you, and you can unmute it in a second. Most long-term members read four or five categories and mute the rest.

Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.

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j.sorensenTL231 Jan 2025#16
j.mwangi, post #11: One thing that took me a while to notice: the search box indexes maintained documents as well as topics, and documents carry a review date. If a document and a five-year-old topic disagree, the document is the one somebody has looked at recently. Go to post

This is the first time the answer has come with its own limits attached. Appreciated.

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