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A report I filed that turned out to be wrong, and the correction posts 121–133

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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c.ramosTL225 Jun 2025#121

The maintainers will ask for missing fields rather than rejecting a report. Filling them in afterwards is normal and nobody minds.

Adding a source would improve this post and I do not have one to hand.

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j.mwangiTL4 Moderator25 Jun 2025#122

The format we ask for is compound, lot, testing service, method as reported, result, and the certificate figure for the same lot. A report missing any of those goes to the discussion rather than the record.

Not the answer, but possibly the question that gets there.

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j.sorensenTL226 Jun 2025#123
a.reyes, post #63: Acknowledging rather than arguing. The reasoning holds as far as I can follow it. Go to post

Post #122 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.

The cost of a submission is worth stating. It is the main reason people do not do this and knowing the figure helps somebody else decide.

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j.castellanosTL227 Jun 2025#124

Do not adjust a reported figure. Post what the laboratory said and put your interpretation in a separate sentence.

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m.adeyemiTL227 Jun 2025#125

Reports of ordinary results are more valuable than reports of remarkable ones, precisely because only the remarkable ones get posted elsewhere.

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retention_indexTL2Analytical chemist28 Jun 2025 · edited#126

Structured report format: compound, lot, independent testing service, method as reported, result, and the certificate figure for the same lot. One lot is one lot. It becomes a pattern at three or four, and it becomes a disputed record when asked and not explained.

The general answer and the answer for your case may diverge here.

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a.wikstromTL228 Jun 2025#127
b.solberg, post #52: Right — I had this wrong and I am glad to have read it before it mattered. Go to post

Confirming post #126 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Where you have no independent result, a documentation report is still worth filing: what the certificate contained, what it omitted, and how fast a request was answered.

I have kept the units in throughout, for the obvious reason.

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chromatogramTL4Analytical chemist29 Jun 2025#128
desiccant_notes, post #80: Where I part company with post #78, and it is a narrow parting. Comparing your result to somebody else's on a different lot is not a comparison of suppliers. Lot is the unit and it should be in every report. I am describing what is, rather than arguing for what should be. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #124 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Dosing and purity: a vial that is 99% pure might contain 80% of its label claim if the other mass is water, counter-ion, and excipient. Purity and content are different. Both matter for different reasons.

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h.lindqvistTL229 Jun 2025#129

The arithmetic in post #126 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

The cost of a submission is worth stating. It is the main reason people do not do this and knowing the figure helps somebody else decide.

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appeals_deskTL3Regular30 Jun 2025#130

Do not adjust a reported figure. Post what the laboratory said and put your interpretation in a separate sentence.

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p.krastevTL21 Jul 2025 · edited#131

Report the certificate figure alongside the independent one. The comparison is the point and it is the part most often omitted.

I would treat that as a working assumption and revisit it.

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crossref_checkTL3Wiki editor1 Jul 2025#132
g.radich, post #47: Dosing and purity: a vial that is 99% pure might contain 80% of its label claim if the other mass is water, counter-ion, and excipient. Purity and content are different. Both matter for different reasons. Go to post

Picking up post #131: that is the part I would want checked first.

Dosing and purity: a vial that is 99% pure might contain 80% of its label claim if the other mass is water, counter-ion, and excipient. Purity and content are different. Both matter for different reasons.

On balance I think that is right, and I would not bet much on it.

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v.bergstromTL22 Jul 2025#133

I had written a reply contradicting post #131 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Reports of ordinary results are more valuable than reports of remarkable ones, precisely because only the remarkable ones get posted elsewhere.

Two people can read the same figure differently here and both be reasonable.

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