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Cost per milligram, computed honestly across formats — the long version

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b.aaltoTL229 Jan 2025#1

Cost per milligram, computed honestly across formats — the long version Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

Documenting an access outcome, dated, because everything in this category expires.

As of May 2026, in my region, the position is as described below. I have linked the primary source rather than a summary of it, because the summaries are consistently a year behind.

If anyone can confirm or contradict this for their own region, please date your answer. An undated claim in this category is worse than no claim.

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blank_injectionTL2Analytical chemist1 Feb 2025#2

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it.

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s.antonsenTL23 Feb 2025#3

Where I part company with the opening post, and it is a narrow parting.

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

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forest_plotTL3Evidence synthesis5 Feb 2025#4

Acknowledging rather than arguing. The reasoning holds as far as I can follow it.

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c.ostergaardTL27 Feb 2025#5
forest_plot, post #4: Acknowledging rather than arguing. The reasoning holds as far as I can follow it. Go to post

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

I would put the burden of proof on the interesting explanation, not the dull one.

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hana.satoTL4 Moderator9 Feb 2025#6
forest_plot, post #4: Acknowledging rather than arguing. The reasoning holds as far as I can follow it. Go to post

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

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h.bakkerTL210 Feb 2025 · edited#7

I had written a reply contradicting post #5 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. That requires knowing your dose, vial volume, and whether you are using a vial or a pen.

That is what the documentation says. What happens in practice is usually close.

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m.strand_rphTL3Pharmacist12 Feb 2025#8

Cost per milligram is the only comparison that survives format differences, but even then it needs care. A pen and a vial are not the same product and cannot be compared on price per milligram alone because dead volume, wastage, and number of doses actually obtainable differ.

Marking that as an opinion rather than a finding.

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a.kowalskiTL213 Feb 2025#9

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

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t.wojcikTL215 Feb 2025#10

This follows post #9 rather than contradicting it.

A cheaper option that arrives slowly has a cost in the form of running out, and people rarely price that.

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j.fonsecaTL216 Feb 2025#11

The arithmetic in post #10 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Cost per week at a maintenance dose is the figure most people actually want and least often calculate.

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PharmNotes_WhitfieldTL4Pharmacist17 Feb 2025#12
j.fonseca, post #11: The arithmetic in post #10 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check. Cost per week at a maintenance dose is the figure most people actually want and least often calculate. Go to post

Answering the question post #8 raises rather than the one it answers.

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

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n.brobergTL219 Feb 2025 · edited#13

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

That is where I would start, not where I would stop.

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orbitrap_olaTL3Mass spectrometrist20 Feb 2025#14

The cost of an independent submission is worth stating in these threads, because it is the main reason people do not do it.

Happy to be the one who is wrong here if it settles the question.

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m.lehtinenTL221 Feb 2025#15
a.kowalski, post #9: Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction. Go to post

Pharmacy acquisition cost: a pharmacy pays less than the patient pays, even at insurance rates. That margin is where the pharmacy's costs and profit live.

Not the whole picture, but the part of it I can speak to.

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c.cardosoTL222 Feb 2025#16
n.broberg, post #13: Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives. That is where I would start, not where I would stop. Go to post

Good question, well framed, and I would like to see it answered properly.

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f.sjobergTL224 Feb 2025#17

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

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dr_okonkwoTL4 Moderator25 Feb 2025#18

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

That matches what I was told, which is not the same as knowing it.

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f.weissTL226 Feb 2025#19
a.kowalski, post #9: Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction. Go to post

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

I would treat the number as indicative rather than as a measurement.

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w.novakTL3Regular27 Feb 2025#20

Price variation between pharmacies: identical prescriptions can cost different amounts at different pharmacies because pharmacies negotiate individually with insurers and manufacturers.

The rule of thumb is fine; the edge cases are where it earns its keep.

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id.almeidaTL21 Mar 2025#21
w.novak, post #20: Price variation between pharmacies: identical prescriptions can cost different amounts at different pharmacies because pharmacies negotiate individually with insurers and manufacturers. The rule of thumb is fine; the edge cases are where it earns its keep. Go to post

Cost per milligram is the only comparison that survives format differences, and even then it needs care.

This is the sort of thing that ought to be settled and apparently is not.

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baseline_driftTL2Analytical chemist2 Mar 2025#22

Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. Everything else is a comparison of packaging.

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j.iyerTL23 Mar 2025#23

Coming back to post #21, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

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bias_varianceTL4Biostatistician4 Mar 2025#24
hana.sato, post #6: Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives. Go to post

Following this. I have the same question and no better information than the first post.

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c.tullochTL25 Mar 2025#25
s.antonsen, post #3: Where I part company with the opening post, and it is a narrow parting. Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives. Go to post

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

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KLindqvistTL4 Moderator6 Mar 2025#26

Taking post #25 at face value and following it one step further.

Where somebody posts a comparison, the useful version states the date, the region and what was included.

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n.krastevTL27 Mar 2025#27

I read post #25 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

Reading it back, the second half matters more than the first.

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d.oyelaranTL3Pharmacist8 Mar 2025#28

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

This is the sort of thing the wiki should carry and currently does not.

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v.nascimentoTL210 Mar 2025 · edited#29

Post #25 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

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n.rahimiTL211 Mar 2025#30

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

The uncertainty is in the assumption, not in the calculation.

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