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Cost per milligram, computed honestly across formats — the long version posts 91–120

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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a.lindholmTL27 May 2025#91
a.kowalski, post #9: Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction. Go to post

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

A qualification I should have led with rather than closed on.

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b.demirTL28 May 2025#92

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

Reporting the observation and leaving the explanation open deliberately.

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s.bruunTL28 May 2025#93

Adding the measurement that post #90 says would settle it.

Independent testing is a real cost and belongs in the comparison. A cheaper supplier tested every lot may cost more in total.

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b.oseiTL29 May 2025#94

Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. That requires knowing your dose, vial volume, and whether you are using a vial or a pen.

I am confident about the direction and much less about the magnitude.

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h.amankwahTL210 May 2025#95
s.bruun, post #93: Adding the measurement that post #90 says would settle it. Independent testing is a real cost and belongs in the comparison. A cheaper supplier tested every lot may cost more in total. Go to post

Price variation between pharmacies: identical prescriptions can cost different amounts at different pharmacies because pharmacies negotiate individually with insurers and manufacturers.

Genuinely open to being wrong about this one.

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BGiordanoTL2Member11 May 2025#96

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

The part I am sure of is shorter than the part I have written.

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b.vestergaardTL212 May 2025#97

The arithmetic in post #94 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

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c.delgadoTL213 May 2025#98

Same experience here, different supplier, so it is at least not unique to one of them.

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h.bhattacharyaTL213 May 2025#99

Building on post #97 rather than restating it.

Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. That requires knowing your dose, vial volume, and whether you are using a vial or a pen.

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c.inglethorpeTL3Regular14 May 2025 · edited#100
OTeixeira, post #52: Independent testing is a real cost and belongs in the comparison. A cheaper supplier tested every lot may cost more in total. I have kept the units in throughout, for the obvious reason. Go to post

Post #96 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Pharmacy acquisition cost: a pharmacy pays less than the patient pays, even at insurance rates. That margin is where the pharmacy's costs and profit live.

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r.erdoganTL215 May 2025#101

Price variation between pharmacies: identical prescriptions can cost different amounts at different pharmacies because pharmacies negotiate individually with insurers and manufacturers.

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dr_bhattacharyaTL3Physician16 May 2025#102

Cost per milligram is the only comparison that survives format differences, and even then it needs care.

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t.duarteTL217 May 2025#103

Adding the measurement that post #100 says would settle it.

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

That holds for the case as described. Change the assumptions and it may not.

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e.ferreiraTL3Regular18 May 2025 · edited#104
r.erdogan, post #101: Price variation between pharmacies: identical prescriptions can cost different amounts at different pharmacies because pharmacies negotiate individually with insurers and manufacturers. Go to post

No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored.

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e.vargaTL218 May 2025#105

Wastage from a concentration choice that leaves an unusable remainder is a real cost and is invisible in a per-milligram figure.

Take it as a starting point and not as a specification.

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r.aldana_pharmdTL4Pharmacist19 May 2025#106

A cheaper option that arrives slowly has a cost in the form of running out, and people rarely price that.

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s.okaforTL220 May 2025#107
g.ibarra, post #69: I read post #66 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. Everything else is a comparison of packaging. The disagreement above is smaller than it looks once the terms are fixed. Go to post

Picking up post #105: that is the part I would want checked first.

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

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lc_gradientTL3Analytical chemist21 May 2025#108
b.osei, post #94: Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. That requires knowing your dose, vial volume, and whether you are using a vial or a pen. I am confident about the direction and much less about the magnitude. Go to post

On post #106 — agreed on the reasoning, with one qualification.

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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a.nwosuTL222 May 2025#109
s.okafor, post #107: Picking up post #105: that is the part I would want checked first. Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives. Go to post

Post #108 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it.

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a.batistaTL222 May 2025#110

I read post #106 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

The confident version of this sentence would be wrong, so here is the hedged one.

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a.cabreraTL223 May 2025#111

I read post #109 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.

Where somebody posts a comparison, the useful version states the date, the region and what was included.

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c.draganovTL1Member24 May 2025 · edited#112
b.osei, post #94: Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. That requires knowing your dose, vial volume, and whether you are using a vial or a pen. I am confident about the direction and much less about the magnitude. Go to post

Cost per milligram is the only comparison that survives format differences, but even then it needs care. A pen and a vial are not the same product and cannot be compared on price per milligram alone because dead volume, wastage, and number of doses actually obtainable differ.

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v.kjaerTL225 May 2025#113

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

I would want the raw data before agreeing with my own summary of it.

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d.bramleyTL3Regular26 May 2025#114

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

One more caveat and then I will stop qualifying: the sample selected itself.

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v.bruunTL226 May 2025#115

Bookmarking this. I will come back when I have something worth adding.

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nl_translatorTL2Translator · NL27 May 2025#116
a.batista, post #110: I read post #106 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite. Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction. The confident version of this sentence would be wrong, so here is the hedged one. Go to post

Compute cost per delivered dose at your dose if you want a number you can act on. Everything else is a comparison of packaging.

It cost nothing to check and would have cost something not to.

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b.dumitruTL228 May 2025#117
a.vukovic, post #73: Fair, and the limits you put on it are the part I will remember. Go to post

The most useful pricing posts here are the ones that show the arithmetic rather than the conclusion.

Two sources, same conclusion, and I could not rule out that one copied the other.

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electrolyte_notesTL2Regular29 May 2025#118

This follows post #117 rather than contradicting it.

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

I would hold that lightly until someone with a larger sample weighs in.

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y.ibarraTL230 May 2025 · edited#119
dr_bhattacharya, post #102: Cost per milligram is the only comparison that survives format differences, and even then it needs care. Go to post

Answering the question post #117 raises rather than the one it answers.

Nothing here is financial advice and none of it is a route to a transaction.

A partial answer, offered because a partial answer beats none.

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d.moreauTL2Regular30 May 2025#120

The arithmetic in post #117 is right; the assumption feeding it is the part to check.

Insurance tier placement: a compound might be covered but on a higher tier (higher copay). Moving to a lower tier usually requires prior authorization or documented failure of cheaper alternatives.

I would want to see it done twice before believing it once.

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