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Priming a pen and whether the primed volume is wasted

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Needle installation: some pens require a fresh needle for each injection; others have a single needle that stays attached. Check the design of your pen. Marking that as an opinion rather than a finding.

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a.norgaardTL210 Jul 2026#1

Priming a pen and whether the primed volume is wasted Writing it up because I had to work it out twice and would rather nobody else did.

I have spent a fortnight trying to pin priming a pen down and I want to set out where I have got to, because I suspect the honest answer is duller than the thread this will produce.

What I have: a consistent observation across a small number of cases, collected the same way each time. What I do not have: any controlled comparison, or any reason to think my cases are representative.

The specific question is whether the pattern survives once the obvious confounder is removed. I cannot remove it with what I have.

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g.haalandTL3Regular11 Jul 2026 · edited#2

The opening post answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Air in a cartridge behaves differently from air in a syringe because the mechanism displaces a fixed volume regardless. That is what priming addresses.

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ca.haddadTL212 Jul 2026#3
g.haaland, post #2: The opening post answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different. Air in a cartridge behaves differently from air in a syringe because the mechanism displaces a fixed volume regardless. That is what priming addresses. Go to post
Community wiki post. Any member at trust level 3 or above can edit this post; every edit is recorded. Last edited by mira.patel on 25 Jul 2026.
  • 25 Jul 2026 — mira.patel: Replaced an unsourced figure with the published one and cited it.
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No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored.

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f.abrahamsenTL2Member Solution13 Jul 2026#4

Needle installation: some pens require a fresh needle for each injection; others have a single needle that stays attached. Check the design of your pen.

Marking that as an opinion rather than a finding.

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f.ibarraTL214 Jul 2026#5

Everything in the opening post holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.

A pen that has been dropped may not be visibly damaged and may not deliver accurately afterwards. Manufacturers say to replace rather than to test, and there is no test a user can do.

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OTeixeiraTL3Regular14 Jul 2026#6

Narrowing post #5, because the general version has more than one answer.

A pen that will not dial to the intended dose is usually telling you the cartridge does not contain enough for it. That is a designed behaviour rather than a fault.

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il.dumitruTL215 Jul 2026#7
f.ibarra, post #5: Everything in the opening post holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have. A pen that has been dropped may not be visibly damaged and may not deliver accurately afterwards. Manufacturers say to replace rather than to test, and there is no test a user can do. Go to post

Reusability: some pens are single-use (throw away after one injection). Others can be reused until empty. Confirm which type you have. Reusing a single-use pen is ineffective because the mechanism does not reset.

I would put a moderate confidence on that and no more.

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OkaforTL3Regular16 Jul 2026#8
f.abrahamsen, post #4: Needle installation: some pens require a fresh needle for each injection; others have a single needle that stays attached. Check the design of your pen. Marking that as an opinion rather than a finding. Go to post

Holding the pen in place for the stated count after the plunger stops is the manufacturer's answer to leakage at the site. It is on the instruction leaflet and it is the step most often skipped.

I checked the source rather than the summary, and they differ.

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n.zielinskiTL217 Jul 2026#9

Answering the question post #5 raises rather than the one it answers.

Disposal of a used pen is a sharps question even where the needle is retracted, and local rules vary more than people expect.

I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this.

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DOdendaalTL3Regular17 Jul 2026#10
ca.haddad, post #3: No disagreement from me. Posting only so the question does not look ignored. Go to post

Priming: most pens require priming before the first use (injecting a small amount to fill the needle and line). Not priming can result in no dose being delivered on the first injection.

That is the version I use. It may not be the version that is correct.

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a.mwangiTL218 Jul 2026#11

Storage instructions for a pen typically differ before and after first use, and the in-use period is the one people miss. It is on the carton.

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KTurkingtonTL3Regular19 Jul 2026#12

Post #8 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Pen confusion between compounds: if you are using multiple pens or alternating pens, confirming you have the correct pen before injection prevents administration errors. Check the label every time.

I have seen it go both ways, which is why I hedge.

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s.bergstromTL219 Jul 2026#13

Storage after first use: most pens can be stored at room temperature after first use, even if unrefrigerated, for a limited time (often 28 days). Check your specific pen's labelling.

Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in.

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m.coelhoTL220 Jul 2026 · edited#14
n.zielinski, post #9: Answering the question post #5 raises rather than the one it answers. Disposal of a used pen is a sharps question even where the needle is retracted, and local rules vary more than people expect. I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this. Go to post

Nothing here is medical advice, and pen technique is the single easiest thing to have demonstrated in person rather than learned from a description.

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a.cardosoTL220 Jul 2026#15

Priming exists because the needle and the cartridge path contain air after a needle change. Skipping it means the first fraction of the dose is not liquid.

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buffer_reviewTL3Regular21 Jul 2026#16

Dose counters: pens show the remaining number of doses. When the counter reaches zero, the pen is empty and cannot deliver more. Noting the counter before injection prevents running out unexpectedly.

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sa.vogelTL222 Jul 2026#17
f.ibarra, post #5: Everything in the opening post holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have. A pen that has been dropped may not be visibly damaged and may not deliver accurately afterwards. Manufacturers say to replace rather than to test, and there is no test a user can do. Go to post

That is clearer than the version I had in my head. Thank you.

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cannula_driftTL3Regular22 Jul 2026#18
n.zielinski, post #9: Answering the question post #5 raises rather than the one it answers. Disposal of a used pen is a sharps question even where the needle is retracted, and local rules vary more than people expect. I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this. Go to post

A pen taken straight from the refrigerator is uncomfortable to inject for the same reason a cold syringe is. Room temperature for a short while first is the standard advice.

This is where my knowledge stops and I would rather mark the edge than blur it.

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a.reyesTL4 Admin23 Jul 2026 · edited#19

Pen mechanics: most pens are dial-and-inject devices where you dial the dose on the pen and push the button to inject. Understanding your specific pen's mechanism prevents dose errors.

Take it as a starting point and not as a specification.

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l.salinasTL223 Jul 2026#20

Practical answer on priming a pen, since the theoretical one is upthread: do the simplest check first, write down the result, and only then decide whether the complicated explanation is needed. It usually is not.

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k.okaforTL224 Jul 2026#21

Coming back to post #18, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.

The click count on a dialled pen is a mechanical property of that pen and is not a universal unit. Counting clicks across two different devices is not a conversion.

The rule of thumb is fine; the edge cases are where it earns its keep.

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k.farrugiaTL3Regular24 Jul 2026#22

Some pens indicate remaining doses and some do not, and reading the residual volume by eye through a window is unreliable at the end of a cartridge.

I would treat the number as indicative rather than as a measurement.

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d.nwosuTL225 Jul 2026 · edited#23
n.zielinski, post #9: Answering the question post #5 raises rather than the one it answers. Disposal of a used pen is a sharps question even where the needle is retracted, and local rules vary more than people expect. I am not the right person to answer the follow-up to this. Go to post

Off-label dosing with a pen: if you want to deliver a dose different from the pen's pre-set steps (e.g., halfway between two step doses), that is off-label use. Some pens allow it; others do not. Confirm before attempting.

I have separated what I observed from what I concluded, which does not always happen.

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j.habermannTL3Regular26 Jul 2026#24

Comparing cost per milligram between a pen and a vial ignores wastage, dead volume and the number of doses actually obtainable. Cost per delivered dose at your dose is the comparison that survives.

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