Acknowledging rather than arguing. The reasoning holds as far as I can follow it.
Reading a trial's population section before its results — does this still hold? posts 121–150
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.
Where I part company with post #120, and it is a narrow parting.
Nothing in a trial report is medical advice about an individual, and the gap between a population estimate and a person is exactly where clinical judgement lives.
Absolute and relative effects answer different questions. Write down the event rate in each arm and the difference between them; everything quotable is derived from those two numbers.
If the premise is wrong, everything after it is decoration.
Absolute numbers, not just relative: a 30% relative reduction tells you the ratio but not the practical magnitude. The event rate in each arm and the difference between them tells you how many people benefit.
The claim is narrower than it sounds, and deliberately so.
Discontinuation handling is the methodological detail that most changes a result and gets the least attention. Read how missing data was imputed before reading the effect size.
A guess, clearly labelled as one.
Post #124 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.
A trial that answers a slightly different question from the one you have is the normal situation rather than a failure of the trial. The skill is describing the gap precisely.
Happy to be corrected if someone holds better data than mine.
Funding and trial conduct should be stated and are a weak predictor of anything on their own. Design quality is the stronger signal and it is checkable.
I would not lead a decision with this, but I would not ignore it either.
Risk of bias: structured appraisal of internal validity. Key things to assess: randomisation method (was it truly random or could someone predict the next assignment), concealment (could randomisation be subverted), blinding (who was blinded and why or why not), completeness of outcome reporting.
Two sources, same conclusion, and I could not rule out that one copied the other.
A treatment-policy estimand asks what happens to people assigned to a strategy, including those who abandon it. A hypothetical estimand asks what would have happened had everyone continued. Both are legitimate and they give different numbers.
It cost nothing to check and would have cost something not to.
Coming back to post #127, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Absolute numbers, not just relative: a 30% relative reduction tells you the ratio but not the practical magnitude. The event rate in each arm and the difference between them tells you how many people benefit.
Composite endpoints should be read component by component. A composite driven entirely by its softest component is a different finding from one where the components move together.
Posting it because the silence on this was starting to look like agreement.
Picking up post #131: that is the part I would want checked first.
Funding and trial conduct should be stated and are a weak predictor of anything on their own. Design quality is the stronger signal and it is checkable.
I had written a reply contradicting post #131 and deleted it. Here is what survived.
Multiplicity and multiple comparisons: if a trial tests many hypotheses, the chance of a false positive on at least one by random chance increases. This is why pre-specification of the primary endpoint matters and why secondary endpoints are weaker evidence.
Confirming post #135 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.
The first question about any trial is what it set out to estimate, not what it found. Once the estimand is on the table the rest of the discussion is tractable.
Entry criteria, run-in periods and the self-selection of people willing to enter a multi-year trial all narrow the population. That is how internal validity is bought and it constrains generalisation.
That is the practical version. The rigorous version is longer and says the same thing.
Seconded. It reads as careful rather than confident, which is the right register.
Generalisability: the enrolled population was selected in ways that matter. Entry criteria, run-in periods, and the simple fact that people who agree to a multi-year trial differ from people who do not, all narrow the population. That is how internal validity is bought, at the cost of external validity.
Not disagreeing with anyone above, just adding the bit I keep having to look up.
Narrowing post #139, because the general version has more than one answer.
Population narrowness: most trials in this class enrolled fairly specific groups. Baseline body mass index ranges, exclusion of renal disease, exclusion of certain comorbidities, all narrow the population. Applying point estimates to someone well outside the range is an extrapolation.
It is worth stating the boring hypothesis before the interesting one.
Building on post #140 rather than restating it.
Absolute and relative effects answer different questions. Write down the event rate in each arm and the difference between them; everything quotable is derived from those two numbers.
That is where I would start, not where I would stop.
Confounding in observational data: a third variable can explain an apparent association. In a randomised trial, randomisation balances unknown confounders. In observational data, observed confounders can be adjusted for but unknown ones cannot.
Nothing to add, except that this is the answer I would give if asked.
Risk of bias: structured appraisal of internal validity. Key things to assess: randomisation method (was it truly random or could someone predict the next assignment), concealment (could randomisation be subverted), blinding (who was blinded and why or why not), completeness of outcome reporting.
I am aware this is the third time this month I have made this point.
I read post #147 twice before replying, because I had assumed the opposite.
A treatment-policy estimand asks what happens to people assigned to a strategy, including those who abandon it. A hypothetical estimand asks what would have happened had everyone continued. Both are legitimate and they give different numbers.
This is the version I would want a new member to read first.
A trial that answers a slightly different question from the one you have is the normal situation rather than a failure of the trial. The skill is describing the gap precisely.
Written in the hope of being told what I have missed.