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A page that has drifted out of date and needs a maintainer posts 31–60

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.

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g.danquahTL221 Nov 2024#31
i.rasmussen, post #18: The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important. The answer changed when I changed how I was measuring, which was informative. Go to post

This settles it for me, at least until somebody posts a reason it should not.

18 likes in reply to #18 20mo
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s.stavrianosTL2Member24 Nov 2024#32

Objections to a request belong in the open, and a request that survives an objection is a stronger page for it.

Somebody will have a better source than mine, and I hope they post it.

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j.lokkenTL227 Nov 2024#33

Worth separating two things that post #29 runs together.

Say what would make the page wrong. A page whose failure conditions are stated is much easier to review honestly.

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DKwiatkowskiTL3Regular30 Nov 2024#34

This follows post #33 rather than contradicting it.

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

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t.brandtTL22 Dec 2024#35
VThorvaldsen, post #17: Accessibility feedback: if you have trouble accessing or reading a maintained page (screen reader issues, contrast problems, small text) report it. Accessibility matters. That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it. Go to post

I had written a reply contradicting post #33 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

24 likes in reply to #17 20mo
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t.waldenstrmTL2Member5 Dec 2024#36
h.agyeman, post #9: Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added. I would put the burden of proof on the interesting explanation, not the dull one. Go to post

Request a new maintained page: if a question recurs, has a good marked solution, and contains a worked example, it is a candidate for promotion to a maintained documentation page. Post your nomination in this subcategory with a link to the topic.

11 likes in reply to #9 20mo
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ew.kuuselaTL28 Dec 2024 · edited#37

Flag a page that has drifted: if you notice a maintained page has information that is outdated (dates that have passed, regulatory changes, new evidence) post a flag so the maintainers see it.

I have left out the parts I could not verify.

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BuchholzTL2Member10 Dec 2024#38

Picking up post #37: that is the part I would want checked first.

Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added.

It reads as pedantry until the day it does not.

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v.stanescuTL213 Dec 2024#39

Scope creep: if you think a page is attempting too much and should be split into multiple pages, that is a reasonable suggestion.

Posting it because the silence on this was starting to look like agreement.

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aliquot_lineTL3Regular16 Dec 2024#40
c.castellanos, post #23: I came in to disagree and I am leaving without a disagreement. Go to post

Second this, and I would have said it less carefully.

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RodriguesTL3Regular19 Dec 2024#41
Knowlton, post #19: Scope creep: if you think a page is attempting too much and should be split into multiple pages, that is a reasonable suggestion. I looked this up rather than remembered it, which is the right order. Go to post

Post #38 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

Translation suggestions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here helps the maintainers prioritise multilingual work.

23 likes in reply to #19 19mo
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r.sobczakTL221 Dec 2024#42

Correction requests: if you spot an error in a maintained page, note it here with the specific correction. The maintainer will review and update if justified.

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isotonic_sheetTL3Regular24 Dec 2024 · edited#43

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

The number is defensible. The precision I gave it is not.

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p.trevinoTL226 Dec 2024#44

Helpful, and easy to find again, which is half of what a good reply is.

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IHollingworthTL2Member29 Dec 2024#45
r.mensah, post #25: A request that says what the page should not cover is unusually helpful, because scope creep is what kills these. I would not lead a decision with this, but I would not ignore it either. Go to post

Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute.

17 likes in reply to #25 19mo
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m.marchettiTL21 Jan 2025#46

Name a willing maintainer in the request. Point three of the criteria stops more nominations than the other three combined.

Filing this under things that are true until someone shows me otherwise.

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e.almeidaTL2Member3 Jan 2025#47

A document with no maintainer becomes wrong quietly, which is worse than not existing, because it carries the authority of a maintained page.

If this contradicts something upthread, the upthread version may well be the better one.

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n.ramosTL26 Jan 2025#48

Post #45 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

The literature is thinner on this than the confidence in the thread implies.

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two_year_lineTL3Regular8 Jan 2025#49

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

The disagreement above is smaller than it looks once the terms are fixed.

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g.radichTL211 Jan 2025#50

I had written a reply contradicting post #48 and deleted it. Here is what survived.

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

That distinction has done more work for me than anything else in this category.

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n.torrenceTL3Regular13 Jan 2025#51
h.agyeman, post #9: Suggesting content for a page: if you know a maintained page is missing something important, post a suggestion with specific content you think should be added. I would put the burden of proof on the interesting explanation, not the dull one. Go to post

Answering the question post #47 raises rather than the one it answers.

Scope the request narrowly. A page about one thing gets written and stays current; a page about a field does not.

15 likes in reply to #9 18mo
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mi.almeidaTL216 Jan 2025#52

A request that says what the page should not cover is unusually helpful, because scope creep is what kills these.

That is all the detail I have. Someone else will have more.

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buffer_marginTL3Regular18 Jan 2025#53

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

That is my reading. Someone else read the same page differently and was reasonable.

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k.agyemanTL221 Jan 2025#54

Requests for a page summarising a supplier are declined, because that is what the vendor documentation set is for and it has its own standards.

I would want a second opinion before relying on that.

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ambient_reviewTL3Regular23 Jan 2025#55
n.ekstrom, post #4: Review cadence should be part of the proposal. A page about a fast-moving area needs a shorter cycle and somebody willing to honour it. The conclusion is tentative; the arithmetic underneath it is not. Go to post

Post #51 describes the usual case. This is about the unusual one.

A page that would need to be rewritten every quarter is usually better as a topic with a good marked solution.

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ni.stanescuTL226 Jan 2025#56

Adding the measurement that post #55 says would settle it.

Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute.

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s.poulsenTL3Regular28 Jan 2025#57

Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change.

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pe.onwukaTL231 Jan 2025#58
VThorvaldsen, post #17: Accessibility feedback: if you have trouble accessing or reading a maintained page (screen reader issues, contrast problems, small text) report it. Accessibility matters. That is one dataset and I would not build a rule on it. Go to post

The most useful requests here identify a specific confusion that keeps recurring rather than a subject that seems important.

This is where my knowledge stops and I would rather mark the edge than blur it.

0 likes in reply to #17 18mo
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BBramleyTL3Regular2 Feb 2025#59
ni.stanescu, post #56: Adding the measurement that post #55 says would settle it. Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute. Go to post

Documents that are mostly a worked example age better than documents that are mostly a summary, because the arithmetic does not change.

Stating my assumptions rather than smuggling them in.

29 likes in reply to #56 18mo
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g.ekstromTL25 Feb 2025#60
p.trevino, post #44: Helpful, and easy to find again, which is half of what a good reply is. Go to post

Translation suggestions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here helps the maintainers prioritise multilingual work.

One case, stated as one case.

15 likes in reply to #44 18mo