Revisiting: Aggregates and why a purity assay may miss them entirely posts 31–54
This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1 · go to the accepted answer.
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Comparing impurity profiles across suppliers is much more informative than comparing purity figures, and almost nobody has the documents to do it.
Not disagreeing with anyone above, just adding the bit I keep having to look up.
Storage-related degradation and synthesis-related impurity look different on a chromatogram. A growing oxidation peak over time is not a manufacturing finding.
Everything in post #31 holds. The case it does not cover is the one I have.
Speaking only to Aggregates as I have actually seen it, rather than as it is usually described: the effect is real, it is smaller than the thread suggests, and the variance between people is larger than the effect.
Narrowing post #35, because the general version has more than one answer.
Relative response factors mean impurities are not detected in proportion to how much of them is present. A one per cent peak is not one per cent by mass unless the response factors happen to match.
This has been discussed before and I could not find the thread, so, again.
Residual solvents: traces of solvents used in purification. These are usually tested by gas chromatography, not by HPLC. A specification for residual solvents should be stated separately from the purity.
It is worth stating the boring hypothesis before the interesting one.
Two claims get bundled together under Aggregates and they need separating. The descriptive one — this is what was observed — is usually well supported. The causal one — this is why — usually is not.
Almost every disagreement in threads like this one dissolves once you say which of the two you are making.
On Aggregates, the part that usually goes wrong is that the question is asked as though it has one answer. It has a range, and the width of the range is the interesting bit.
If you can post the two or three numbers you are working from, several people here will check the arithmetic rather than argue about the conclusion.
Aggregates: multiples of the monomer mass. May not elute at all under a standard reversed-phase method. A species that does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.
Nothing above should be read as advice about what anyone else should do.
Fair, and the limits you put on it are the part I will remember.
Trifluoroacetate is a counter-ion rather than an impurity, and it appears in the mass balance rather than in the chromatogram. Conflating the two accounts for several confused threads here.
Oxidation at methionine or tryptophan adds sixteen per oxygen and typically elutes earlier. In aged material it is the modification that grows.
The strongest argument against my own position on Aggregates, stated as well as I can state it, since nobody else has yet.
Taking post #44 at face value and following it one step further.
Aggregates sits at the boundary between what this community can usefully discuss and what it cannot, and I think it falls on the discussable side, narrowly.
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Post #46 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.
Comparing impurity profiles across suppliers is much more informative than comparing purity figures, and almost nobody has the documents to do it.
Picking up post #47: that is the part I would want checked first.
I changed my mind about Aggregates after someone here asked me for the source and I could not produce one. That is worth saying out loud because it is the ordinary way it happens.
What would change my mind on Aggregates is a second dataset collected by someone with no stake in the first. Until then I hold it loosely and I would rather say so than pretend to more.
Agreed, and I will stop repeating the version of this I had been repeating.
Coming back to post #49, because the follow-up matters more than the original answer.
Aggregates may be a multiple of the monomer mass and may not elute at all under a standard method. What does not come off the column does not appear in the area percentage.
Post #53 is right about the mechanism and I think understates the practical bit.
Off-target structures: if the sequence synthesis goes wrong, a completely different amino acid can be incorporated. The resulting off-target peptide is a structural isomer with the same mass but a different sequence. No chromatographic purity method detects this without a reference standard.
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