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Requesting a page: what makes a good request — what changed since posts 121–142

This is a continuation of a long topic, addressed by post number rather than by page. Start at post 1.

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l.parkinsonTL2Member13 Oct 2024#121

Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change.

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ma.nascimentoTL213 Oct 2024#122

Accessibility feedback: if you have trouble accessing or reading a maintained page (screen reader issues, contrast problems, small text) report it. Accessibility matters.

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citation_peakTL3Regular13 Oct 2024#123
DOdendaal, post #46: Name a willing maintainer in the request. Point three of the criteria stops more nominations than the other three combined. A qualification I should have led with rather than closed on. Go to post

If a request is declined, the reasoning is written down, and it is worth reading because it usually describes a better version of the same idea.

I would want a second opinion before relying on that.

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f.yildizTL213 Oct 2024#124

Confirming post #123 from a second method, which matters more than confirming it from a second person.

Format suggestions: if you think a maintained page could be clearer in its presentation (different section structure, different examples, added graphics) suggest the change.

Someone will know this better than I do and I hope they say so.

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WendelboeTL2Member13 Oct 2024#125

Name a willing maintainer in the request. Point three of the criteria stops more nominations than the other three combined.

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ai.vukovicTL213 Oct 2024#126

Where a request is for a translation or a regional version, the maintenance burden doubles and the proposal should say who carries it.

I would put the burden of proof on the interesting explanation, not the dull one.

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eire_readerTL2Regional · IE13 Oct 2024#127
z.onwuka, post #34: Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute. A modest claim, modestly supported. Go to post

Where I part company with post #123, and it is a narrow parting.

Filing a mild objection to the consensus on Requesting a page. Mild because I might be wrong; an objection because nobody has addressed the case that does not fit.

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f.haddadTL213 Oct 2024 · edited#128

Post #127 is the version of this I will quote in future. One addition.

Translation suggestions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here helps the maintainers prioritise multilingual work.

I would call that likely rather than established.

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p.novotnyTL2Regular13 Oct 2024#129

A request is more likely to succeed with a proposed outline attached. "Somebody should write about X" rarely moves; a structure and two sections does.

The confident version of this sentence would be wrong, so here is the hedged one.

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m.balogunTL213 Oct 2024#130

Narrowing post #127, because the general version has more than one answer.

Review cadence should be part of the proposal. A page about a fast-moving area needs a shorter cycle and somebody willing to honour it.

Worth reading the earlier posts in this thread before acting on mine.

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np_gilmoreTL3Nurse practitioner13 Oct 2024#131

This is the first time the answer has come with its own limits attached. Appreciated.

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r.mensaTL213 Oct 2024 · edited#132

A document with no maintainer becomes wrong quietly, which is worse than not existing, because it carries the authority of a maintained page.

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m.dalgaardTL3Regular13 Oct 2024#133
glossary_check, post #102: Translation suggestions: if a maintained page should exist in another language, suggesting it here helps the maintainers prioritise multilingual work. The short version is the first sentence; the rest is why. Go to post

Taking post #130 at face value and following it one step further.

Scope creep: if you think a page is attempting too much and should be split into multiple pages, that is a reasonable suggestion.

Worth saying I have only my own numbers here, and n is small.

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f.rasmussenTL213 Oct 2024#134
r.mensa, post #132: A document with no maintainer becomes wrong quietly, which is worse than not existing, because it carries the authority of a maintained page. Go to post

Post #132 and I disagree about the size of the effect, not about the direction.

Request a new maintained page: if a question recurs, has a good marked solution, and contains a worked example, it is a candidate for promotion to a maintained documentation page. Post your nomination in this subcategory with a link to the topic.

I keep a log of this specifically because memory is unreliable about it.

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owen.bradyTL413 Oct 2024#135
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s.dialloTL213 Oct 2024#136

Scope the request narrowly. A page about one thing gets written and stays current; a page about a field does not.

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peak_purityTL3Analytical chemist13 Oct 2024#137
v.rautio, post #119: This follows post #116 rather than contradicting it. Objections to a request belong in the open, and a request that survives an objection is a stronger page for it. The uncertainty is in the assumption, not in the calculation. Go to post

Authority and authorship: if you think a maintained page needs input from someone with specific expertise (a clinician, an analytical chemist) suggest who might contribute.

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no.silvaTL213 Oct 2024#138

Post #136 put the caveat in the right place and I want to underline it.

A page that would need to be rewritten every quarter is usually better as a topic with a good marked solution.

The short answer was in the first line; everything after is the working.

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e.verhoevenTL213 Oct 2024 · edited#139

Post #138 answers the question as asked. The question underneath it is different.

A request that says what the page should not cover is unusually helpful, because scope creep is what kills these.

Written in the hope of being told what I have missed.

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r.laurentTL213 Oct 2024#140

That is consistent with mine, for whatever one more account is worth.

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b.restrepoTL213 Oct 2024#141

Good question, well framed, and I would like to see it answered properly.

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buffer_marginTL3Regular13 Oct 2024#142
b.kowalski, post #113: Request a new maintained page: if a question recurs, has a good marked solution, and contains a worked example, it is a candidate for promotion to a maintained documentation page. Post your nomination in this subcategory with a link to the topic. This is the sort of thing the wiki should carry and currently does not. Go to post

A request rather than an answer: could whoever has the primary source for Requesting a page post it? I have seen the claim three times this month and each version had lost a qualifier.

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